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Transcript of controller telling plane to land in Minsk

243 pointsby aericsonabout 4 years ago

19 comments

Sebb767about 4 years ago
&gt; Pilot: Again, this recommendation to divert to Minsk where did it come from? Where did it come from? Company? Did it come from departure airport authorities or arrival airport authorities?<p>Is it usual for a pilot to ask for all this information? From a &quot;casual reader&quot; perspective, it looks like the pilot really did not want to divert, but this might just be my reading.
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chrismellerabout 4 years ago
All the info from ATC is in that just vague enough category that you wonder if it’s just a language barrier issue or if what you’re thinking is really happening.<p>I feel like the pilot knew something was off, but eventually went along with it because he didn’t really have any other choice.<p>Is Belarus going to become another country international airlines avoid flying over?
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weinzierlabout 4 years ago
This is the most interesting part for me:<p><i>PILOT ASKS FOR FURTHER DETAILS</i><p><i>Pilot: Again, this recommendation to divert to Minsk where did it come from? Where did it come from? Company? Did it come from departure airport authorities or arrival airport authorities?</i><p>There he was on the right track to do what we always recommend to avoid being fished: Independently verify from the original source.<p><i>Controller: This is our recommendations.</i><p>Minsk thwarts it by telling the truth and going into <i>Milgram Experiment</i> mode:<p><i>Pilot: Can you say again?</i><p><i>Controller: This is our recommendations.</i><p><i>Pilot: (unreadable.)</i><p><i>Pilot: Did you say that your recommendation?</i><p><i>PILOT AGREES TO LAND IN MINSK</i><p>Unfortunately (but understandably) pilot obeys.
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r721about 4 years ago
&gt;according to a transcript released on Tuesday by authorities in Belarus.<p>&gt;Following are excerpts from the transcript, which Reuters was unable to verify.<p>I would wait for a Ryanair transcript.
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nevesabout 4 years ago
Don&#x27;t forget that the country that started to divert planes to catch democrat dissidents was the United States. But Snowden wasn&#x27;t in the plane.<p>Details here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;greenwald.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;as-anger-toward-belarus-mounts-recall" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;greenwald.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;as-anger-toward-belarus-mou...</a>
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teromabout 4 years ago
The caa.gov.by news release has a much more complete (Belarusian-sourced) transcript than the edited Reuters one: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;caa.gov.by&#x2F;ru&#x2F;news-ru&#x2F;view&#x2F;1-203&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;caa.gov.by&#x2F;ru&#x2F;news-ru&#x2F;view&#x2F;1-203&#x2F;</a><p>EDIT: copy-pasta from (Belarusian) source <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;SpComb&#x2F;849b97bae720cb77ab4c43ef92daec59" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;SpComb&#x2F;849b97bae720cb77ab4c43ef92dae...</a>
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Arechabout 4 years ago
&gt; Following are excerpts from the transcript, which Reuters was unable to verify.<p>Why do they even post it then?
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ptudanabout 4 years ago
Hmm, I&#x27;m more curious in reading the interaction when they bring up the fighter jet. Does anyone have a link to that?
ThalesXabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;m getting Access Denied to the article. It seems to be available on archive.org [0]...<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20210525165724&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;aerospace-defense&#x2F;they-say-code-is-red-transcript-controller-telling-plane-land-minsk-2021-05-25&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20210525165724&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reute...</a>
wolpoliabout 4 years ago
&gt; ATC: They say code is red.<p>Shouldn&#x27;t ATC just say the code is red instead of trying to distance him&#x2F;herself from it? Could any pilots here provide more context?
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donretagabout 4 years ago
The controller[s] were probably just as powerless as the pilot (considering the fighter escort). Get that plane to land, period.<p>Were they reading from a script and did they improvise?
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marvinabout 4 years ago
Looking forward to read the transcripts from the cockpit voice recorder. Curious to know whether the pilots knew or suspected that there were intelligence operatives on board.
yregabout 4 years ago
Are airliners in contact with their airlines, via say satelite phone?<p>Would the pilot be able to verify with Ryanair HQ whether they know about the bomb threat they are being fed from ATC?<p>Of course when the recomendation is accompanied by a fighter jet one doesn&#x27;t have a choice regardless, but I&#x27;m still curious whether they are at ATC&#x27;s mercy for information.
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Badfoodabout 4 years ago
Given that it&#x27;s simple for anyone to setup a powerful radio to spoof ATC, and it probably would be too hard to sabotage the real ATC radio, I&#x27;m surprised planes haven&#x27;t been hijacked like this before, but without the use of official ATC.
coding123about 4 years ago
That seems quite different from what I read last few days.
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stretchwithmeabout 4 years ago
So it was a fake bomb threat coming from the government.
jahabrewerabout 4 years ago
Unbelievable that they&#x27;d go through this charade to arrest ~Snowden~ Protasevich.
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88840-8855about 4 years ago
What about the claim that there was a bomb on that plane? From what I have read there was an email sent from a protonmail account and was talking about the Israel&#x2F;Hamas situation.<p>Are there any developments in that field?
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durnygburabout 4 years ago
If one attempts to scratch the facade of a &quot;great&quot; long-ruling leader one will be torn down with all available means. Regardless whether the leader is a chancellor of a developed country, member of a major political dynasty in superpower country, or a head of a poor authocratic state. Only difference is Belarus cannot afford to buy some positive press. Go ahead western world, agitate these poor youngsters to hop into abyss. They don&#x27;t seem to be aware that the stake is not IG sponsorship deal but their life.
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