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No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

95 pointsby aluketalmost 4 years ago

33 comments

king_magicalmost 4 years ago
The NY Times Headline is much more informative and interesting:<p>&gt; U.S. Finds No Evidence of Alien Technology in Flying Objects, but Can’t Rule It Out, Either<p>Sub header:<p>&gt; A new report concedes that much about the observed phenomena remains difficult to explain, including their acceleration, as well as ability to change direction and submerge.<p>Those descriptions are a tectonic shift on the topic from the US government.
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tejohnsoalmost 4 years ago
The purpose of the report is not to conclude whether any of this unexplained behaviour is due to alien craft. The purpose is to get the information out, stop pretending it doesn&#x27;t exist, and provide a platform to move forward without the lies and the coverups. At least, that&#x27;s what I gathered. Whether they actually manage to do that remains to be seen. It&#x27;s already been a shocking past few years in terms of what has been admitted to and reported.<p>We already have the navy on record validating the authenticity of some of the footage, combined with multi-sensor data and eye witness reports indicating something very strange is going on. We also have several government officials who are on record that they are genuinely concerned. What we need now is transparency so that a multiple discipline, open investigation can be carried out publicly without stonewalling and obfuscation.
gfodoralmost 4 years ago
They exist. They are real. They aren&#x27;t ours. They aren&#x27;t an adversary&#x27;s, because a) the military would never admit it if that were possible and b) if it were the case the adversary would have already taken over the world.<p>There&#x27;s no evidence they were made by aliens, leprechauns, or ghosts. But there&#x27;s evidence they were made. Not that they are swamp gas or funny clouds. So lets get past that, and realize there&#x27;s something seriously insane going on, and it implies there is, or was, a capacity for non-natural creation + engineering by non-humans.<p>My 2c is extra-terrestrial civ is less likely than co-terrestrial civ (subterrainean&#x2F;ocean) - but lets stop talking about this like they are hallucinations or possible atmospheric phenomenon.
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swebsalmost 4 years ago
&gt;Senior US administration officials briefed on the findings of the report said that the majority of more than 120 incidents over the past 20 years did not derive from any US military or other advanced US government technology, according to The New York Times.<p>So they have no evidence that it&#x27;s aliens, no evidence that it&#x27;s US military technology, and no evidence that it&#x27;s foreign technology. In other words nothing new has been discovered and we&#x27;re still at square 1. Not really news, but I guess it&#x27;s good to keep us updated.
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icyfoxalmost 4 years ago
The NYT article on the same topic includes this bit as well:<p>&gt; In one encounter, strange objects — one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind — appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast.<p>I don&#x27;t place a lot of trust into reports from a single pilot out at sea because of how widespread and wacky some visual phenomenon can look to the naked eye (and even to some sensory systems). Even two pilots in separate crafts might see the same illusion. In many ways these are similar to the old fuzzy images of UFOs from fifty years ago - irreproducible results inhibit real science.<p>But with something this consistently observable, this close to a major metropolitan area, I&#x27;m genuinely surprised that more military or research crafts weren&#x27;t sent to observe. With the full weight of the intelligence and scientific community on this - we could at least rule out some of the hypotheses.
hliyanalmost 4 years ago
Not all the observations are explainable. However, if you take away one observation -- the claims about high-g acceleration and supersonic flight -- the following seems to fit: battery powered drones with regular (possibly quad) rotors, sea-launched (possibly from vessels disguised as merchant vessels) by a foreign power to observe US military.<p>This would explain: FLIR footage and close range radar, but no contact on long range radar. Would also explain why primarily Navy pilots have observed these objects while commercial pilots don&#x27;t, and why they seem to be seldom seen over land. Also explains why all the sightings seem to be around the continental US. Also explains the lack of exhaust plumes. Also explains the lack of sonic booms (I know of no way a solid object could cross the sound barrier without a boom). Multiple such drones might also explain why they appear to travel faster than the fighters -- perhaps they are observing two identical craft.<p>All one has to do is discount the high-g claims as embellishment by pilots. I could be wrong, but I know of no way to account for all the observations.
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radicaldreameralmost 4 years ago
They seem associated with the ocean as well, many reports of the craft originating or disappearing into the ocean (&quot;transmedium&quot; vehicles).<p>Is it possible that there&#x27;s some form of life that originates in the ocean, has evolved intelligence that is in a totally different paradigm than us, and this is their equivalent of going to &quot;space&quot;?<p>It makes sense in the macro-sense as well as we&#x27;re very lucky to not be a water world in the habitable zone. Life evolved in the oceans far earlier than on land and we know very little about the ocean due to it&#x27;s large size.
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simonsarrisalmost 4 years ago
All the mealy UFO chatter (months of it!) makes me wonder if its just a big PR campaign to convince military people to actually report oddities. Maybe they [military] don&#x27;t want to be seen as dumb for seeing something they can&#x27;t explain, so they don&#x27;t report possible foreign spy drones enough. So now the gov has to literally to psyop <i>everyone</i> into caring so the troops finally report sightings they can&#x27;t explain.<p>Imagine the latest US military drone tech testing their drones by sending them over other US bases and doing weird stuff, flashing lights, making crazy patterns, etc, hoping for a funny report. But then: The base never reports anything. So the drone team has to go &quot;oh crap, what else don&#x27;t they notice?&quot;<p>So to save face the gov launches a huge PR campaign saying &quot;GUYS UFOS ARE REAL AND WE TAKE THEM VERY SERIOUSLY [so if you&#x27;re in the air force please report when you see a weird light, thanks]&quot;<p>(I have absolutely no evidence that this is remotely true)
babelfishalmost 4 years ago
Is this really a surprise to anybody? UFO means &quot;unidentified flying object&quot;, not &quot;alien&quot;.
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yaspalmost 4 years ago
Why does it feel like this report has been teased for weeks, almost akin to the release of a new blockbuster movie or similar cultural product?
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starkdalmost 4 years ago
So, basically they are saying they don&#x27;t know what the hell they are.
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notJimalmost 4 years ago
A lot of these videos have already been debunked as being visual artifacts from the cameras or parallax. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Le7Fqbsrrm8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Le7Fqbsrrm8</a>
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Abishek_Muthianalmost 4 years ago
NASA literally spends Billions annually trying to find poop of single celled organism which might have existed eons ago in another plant, That&#x27;s why it&#x27;s hard for me to buy the U.S. Govt. covering up &#x27;alien&#x27; story.
firefoxdalmost 4 years ago
Someone posted this video here then deleted it. (I&#x27;m pretty sure he was an alien)<p>It&#x27;s just bokeh:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-r2oaQWmqkk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-r2oaQWmqkk</a>
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Animatsalmost 4 years ago
I wonder if we get good data in the report. The flybys of U.S. Navy ships had to have produced lots of sensor data. In particular, synchronized radar data, or electro-optical data if we&#x27;re really lucky, from several ships in a task group would resolve many ambiguities. Most positional illusions break down when seen from multiple viewpoints.<p>Some of this stuff suggests someone fooling around with drones. But whose drones?
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teiloalmost 4 years ago
Once it is granted that the objects and their detectable properties are real, and not illusions, there are really only a few possibilities.<p>1) Advanced and highly secretive technology developed by some government. 2) The same, but by a group within our own government, but off-budget and highly secret (think NSA in the bad old days when it didn&#x27;t officially exist). 3) The same, but by a non-governmental group of industrialists or similar, but still terrestrial. 4) Aliens<p>Given the occurrence of these phenomena around military deployments, bases, and nuclear facilities, my money&#x27;s on #1.<p>Defaulting to aliens seems attractive to those who presume the technology is too advanced, seemingly violating the laws of physics, and thus an exotic explanation is required. This is illogical.<p>If the objects are real, and (big) if they are violating the laws of physics as we know them, that means that our understanding of physics needs to be revised. Physics is physics. Explaining it as &quot;aliens&quot; doesn&#x27;t explain anything. If the physics is wrong (or rather, incomplete, which we already know is the case), then there is no reason to presume that some terrestrial group would be incapable of making and leveraging discoveries that would enable it to create these craft&#x2F;drones.<p>We are not lacking in historical examples of tremendous technical advances far outpacing the current understanding. Germany, during WWII, made tremendous advances with the jet engine and in rocketry, even in robotic analog guidance systems, that shocked the scientists in the US. To this day, much of what we acquired with Operation Paperclip is still classified. Why? I&#x27;m not going to speculate, but there must be a reason we still don&#x27;t know what all was acquired from the Germans by the US and Russia.<p>The same thing could happen again. If new physical principles were, at some point, discovered, leveraged, and developed by some group (governmental or otherwise), they have had quite a few decades to improve on it. Think about how far technology and materials science has come in the public arena in the last 50 years. Add in some exotic discoveries, and some group with the resources to leverage them, and a terrestrial explanation becomes quite plausible. No aliens required.
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Udikalmost 4 years ago
Did anyone seriously expect the report to say that those things are &quot;aliens&quot;?<p>The fact that it says that (at least some) encounters did actually occur and that they cannot be explained is already some news.
notionalalmost 4 years ago
Weird how aliens always show up around USG locations and vehicles. All the land mass in the world and some how it&#x27;s always around the super militarized North America.
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RcouF1uZ4gsCalmost 4 years ago
My biggest question when I see statements about these UFOs being aliens is “Where is the mother ship”?<p>The constraints on something built to operate in the Earth’s atmosphere are much different than a ship that can actually cross interstellar distances.<p>So if we are seeing the equivalent of alien fighters (small, fast, highly maneuverable) there should also be the equivalent of an aircraft carrier which provides the long distance transport and logistics for these fighters.
booleandilemmaalmost 4 years ago
Have they ruled out software bugs, and literal bugs crawling on the camera lens?<p>If so, what the heck are they seeing out there?<p>Have other country’s militaries reported seeing anything?
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poundofshrimpalmost 4 years ago
NY Times article on the same topic:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;amp&#x2F;s&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;03&#x2F;us&#x2F;politics&#x2F;ufos-sighting-alien-spacecraft-pentagon.amp.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;amp&#x2F;s&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;03&#x2F;us&#x2F;p...</a>
stronglikedanalmost 4 years ago
I can&#x27;t read past the paywall, but regarding the first photo (and the one I&#x27;ve seen the most), Kyle Hill makes a <i>very</i> thorough and compelling case for jet engine exhaust in IR, here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;I_n1xpKBBcs?t=1074" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;I_n1xpKBBcs?t=1074</a>
staunchalmost 4 years ago
The public has a right to know certain things, like if there is any evidence of aliens visiting Earth. The right should probably be an explicit constitutional amendment:<p><i>The people, being free citizens of the universe, shall never be denied access to any information that may pertain to the existence of alien life.</i>
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treeman79almost 4 years ago
4 year old spherical drone. Have the leds emit light to confuse.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.livescience.com&#x2F;58928-spherical-drone-display.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.livescience.com&#x2F;58928-spherical-drone-display.ht...</a><p>I imagine the tech has improved some since
cwkossalmost 4 years ago
I wonder if a swarm of drones can move faster than a single drone, using the technique like the catepillars who crawl over each other in a leap-frogging fashion to move at roughly 2x the speed of an individual.
transistor-manalmost 4 years ago
Is there a formal link to the report?
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webwielder2almost 4 years ago
Well, duh.
samstavealmost 4 years ago
Breakaway civ.
zxcvbn4038almost 4 years ago
Nazis. From the moon.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Iron_Sky" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Iron_Sky</a>
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Tistelalmost 4 years ago
There is a guy on YouTube, who is a PhD physicist, called Thunderf00t (sp?). He thinks it might be a duck in the Cmd. Frasier (sp?) video. Some species of duck do crazy kamikaze dives into the water. Flapping wings might not show up due to camera shutter speeds. Given wind speed variation at differ altitudes and the relative velocities of the plane and bird it might appear to be going much faster than it is from the birds frame of reference. It’s a much more sane theory. Speed of light and distance between planets and all that. Or it could be the dirty commies messing with the US with some drones.
dorkwoodalmost 4 years ago
I think we need to be a bit more imaginative rather than just jumping to &quot;aliens&quot; every time. There are other possible explanations that are just as fun! An animal species we&#x27;ve never seen before, for example. Or time travelling humans. Or maybe one guy happened across faster-than-light travel in his garage and is hoarding it from everyone else.
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nynxalmost 4 years ago
Well, assuming this isn&#x27;t a psyop, this is incredibly exciting. These things are doing maneuvers that simply aren&#x27;t possible with the technology we have currently. This means that the scifi future of our dreams is nearly upon us.
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WalterBrightalmost 4 years ago
It&#x27;s hilarious watching CNN reporters pushing this UFO speculation. Don&#x27;t they realize this even further besmirches any credibility they have left on other topics, like all their conspiracy theories?<p>I remember when UFO sightings were relegated to the tabloids like The National Enquire. CNN has sunk to tabloid level.
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