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Making better decisions with the Brier score

50 pointsby ergodiclifealmost 4 years ago

5 comments

astrophysicianalmost 4 years ago
In my experience I’ve never found an instance where you would use Brier scores over cross entropy/Bernoulli/Binomial log likelihoods. Does anybody know a concrete example when you would prefer Brier??
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gcuthalmost 4 years ago
For folks who want to try the kind of forecasting being discussed here, Metaculus is a pretty great community: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.metaculus.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.metaculus.com&#x2F;</a><p>Their FAQ has a great explanation of how they &#x27;score&#x27; user forecasts --- including a summary of Brier scores for binary yes&#x2F;no questions, and the log score used for both binary and continuous questions: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.metaculus.com&#x2F;help&#x2F;faq&#x2F;#howscore" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.metaculus.com&#x2F;help&#x2F;faq&#x2F;#howscore</a>
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kqralmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;m not (yet) using a scoring rule for my work-in-progress uncertainty test[1] of calibration, but only Beta posteriors, which are also a neat way of presenting the result of many predictions.<p>I am slightly more fond of log scoring than the Brier score, though, for the reason mentioned in another comment: being somewhat wrong is often worse than being very right, and should be penalised harder numerically.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;static.loop54.com&#x2F;uncertainty-test.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;static.loop54.com&#x2F;uncertainty-test.html</a><p>(By the way, I build this to practise myself -- but I ran into a problem: I know the answers to all propositions, having written them myself... if anyone wants to contribute propositions, please contact me and I&#x27;ll ask for them in a specific format so I can blindly paste them without knowing the true ones.)
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qinjian623almost 4 years ago
What&#x27;s the difference with MSE loss?
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KingOfCodersalmost 4 years ago
Anyone else reading Bier score?