I run a language learning app (leerly.io) which focuses on teaching language through comprehensible input, which seems to be at least somewhat how LLwN is approaching the problem of language acquisition. For those interested in how to get the most out of language learning tools like LLwN, some tips which are backed up by the field of applied linguistics:<p>- Don't translate! If you do, do so very sparingly. It sounds counter-intuitive, but stopping to translate often will just slow you down. That's because...<p>- The most important thing is just experiencing the language. You need hundreds and hundreds of hours listening to the language to really start to acquire it. Comprehension is inevitable, just optimize for time spent listening/reading.<p>- Avoid speaking. This has shown to actually hinder the process of acquiring a language. Speaking is the natural result of having learned a language. You'll notice when you're ready to start speaking a little because you'll occasionally have thoughts in your target language. Until then, speaking practice is virtually useless.<p>Maybe these will help you, as they've definitely helped me learn Spanish. Buena suerte :)<p>Note: These tips are also only for people who want to learn a language to fluency. If you just want to learn enough to order at a restaurant, that's a different ballgame.
Paying member here -- I've used it to slowly, sentence by sentence, watch a full season of a Taiwanese workplace drama over the past few months.<p>One of the best parts of LLwN as a way to study is the passive encouragement: you can click on a word to mark it as "known", and then it always shows up green in future subtitles.<p>Pretty soon, entire multi-line subtitles start showing up all green. And for me at least, that provides a huge confidence boost that helps me keep going.<p>Instead of seeing each new subtitle as a challenge ("<Deep breath> here we go..."), you think, "It's all green! I already know everything here! I just have to read it!" And that's made a huge difference in how it feels to study.<p>I wish Kindle had a similar feature for books.
This is a tangent, but has any noticed just how terrible Netflix subtitles can be? Occasionally, when watching with family members, I will enable Swedish subtitles for English movies and sometimes it's as if they have worked on a different material than what the actors on screen are saying. It's bizarre to see this low quality effort in movie after movie, show after show.
As an active learner of the Turkish language this tool is really held back by using Netflix' own subtitles. First of all if you go to their website and u look for Turkish content, it only lists shows created for the Turkish market, yet there's so much more content available with Turkish dubs and subs like Ninjago, Pokemon, Paw Patrol that likely have easier vocabulary, cause it's target at kids. And yet again the subs sometimes hardly match the dubs, which therefore doesn't help with hearing comprehension at all. If anyone can suggest good alternatives to practice hearing comprehension at different levels (even payed ones) I would really appreciate it.
The video shows subtitles in two languages for each spoken sentence. Does this use ASR or the official multilingual subtitles? I found that even monolingually, subtitles can sometimes divert from what is actually spoken on screen. I assume that if just the existing subtitles are used, they are not exact translations from one another either?<p>Also, longer dialogs are often split into two screens - this should be an additional synchronization challenge between the two languages, right?
I met a young woman in Chile who had an amazingly clear accent when speaking English. She learned English from watching American TV and listening to American music. It was way better than any English I heard from teenagers learning it in school.
I used Fleex (<a href="https://fleex.tv" rel="nofollow">https://fleex.tv</a>) when I was a teenager. It worked really well. You can use it with Netflix and local files by fetching subtitles from Opensubtitles, which is pretty smart
I am learning Mandarin and found this super useful when watching shows. The ability to slow down and replay sentences quickly, as well as show Pinying is great!<p>Just the other day I watched a Taiwanese movie called "Classmates minus", which was quite good.
It might come as a surprise to some but subtitles on Netflix are covered by a license agreement. Some are available in countries and not in others. So this raises some interesting questions on the legality of it all.
I tried using this for a few days. I found it incredibly frustrating, partially because the subtitles in Finnish were so dumbed down from the actual English-language dialogue.
I used this tool and loved it. It works best when the original content is in your content language so the audio matches the subtitles.<p>LLwN provides a nice catalog to find such content which can be very useful even if you don't use the browser extension (such as watching on platforms that don't have Chrome.)<p><a href="https://languagelearningwithnetflix.com/catalogue.html" rel="nofollow">https://languagelearningwithnetflix.com/catalogue.html</a>
Excellent, Is there something similar which pops up a dictionary on screen when a word from the subtitle is clicked?<p>A user on my problem validation platform was asking for such a solution[1].<p>[1] <a href="https://needgap.com/problems/201-show-meaning-of-words-in-a-video-language-movie" rel="nofollow">https://needgap.com/problems/201-show-meaning-of-words-in-a-...</a>
Tools like this are great because they give you access to in-context example sentences.<p>Textbooks often start with grammar and layer sentences on top. I prefer taking a real conversation and breaking it down. If I can see myself saying that sentence, then its guaranteed to be useful.<p>My project tries to achieve this with a chatbot-style lesson format:<p>chatlesson.com
I wonder if this is legal, ie transforming creative works to be language learning tools, and inserting themselves into Netflix like this, and also using the Netflix name in their own name.<p>Not saying it shouldn't be legal, I'm just wondering whether they could get sued by Netflix or the copyright holders and lose.
I love this extension. I also love YouTube version of this extension but it's not flawless as like Netflix version because of it relies on machine translation with randomly devided sentence by auto transcribe. Also some videos are never transcribed for unknown reason.
Every time I see a language learning tool posted, I look to see if they have Armenian, a language I have been trying to learn for almost a decade. This one fails the test, but so have all the others.
Apparently they are also hosted using fastly which is down.<p>HN discussion here: <a href="https://fastly.com/" rel="nofollow">https://fastly.com/</a>
suggestion: sometimes it is better to be challenged and not to translate everything. I wish there was a way to only translate some of the world with some dictionary of words you don't want to translate.(you already know them)