Been a ProtonMail customer for years, still pretty dissatisfied. They've been promising U2F (a pretty standard security feature) for years, yet there is still no sign of it in this release. They've spent years obsessing over calendars for some reason instead of their core product. They also took a very long time to open source their IMAP bridge which caused me to further lose love for them.<p>PM also blatantly lie in their advertising. They cannot provide end-to-end encrypted mail because limitations in existing email protocols prevent it. All they can do is quickly wrap the contents of your mail in encryption once it has arrived.<p>With Apple now starting to offer unlimited email aliases to their premium users, I think ProtonMail will fall behind by only offering a handful.
For those who don't know, if you plan to use a security model analogous to "one protonmail per account" please don't do this. I made maybe 1-3 new accounts every other week for 2-3 months and at random, Protonmail disabled all my accounts. This was not me making 2 accounts daily, there was no warning or really any indication that I was supposedly breaching their moronic "anti fraud" system.<p>I had to complain on their subreddit AND twitter for them to do anything about it and to this day I still receive notifications to backup emails that "I've received a new message in my protonmail account" but cannot actually access said protonmail account.<p>For now, I've just resorted to hosting email on namecheap and AWS, DO NOT consider protonmail as a "secure" stand in for gmail - it's flat out not worth it and their support is basically non-existent.
Tried ProtonMail a few years ago but couldn't find a reason to switch from Fastmail (which has been excellent IMO). The number one Fastmail feature for me their excellent support for Aliases, so I can run 5 different domains and multiple email addresses for each domain from a single interface. It didn't seem like Protonmail could do this as elegantly.<p>Anything I'm missing by not being on Protonmail?
I’ve been a Protonmail user for about a year. Previous to that I used GMail and Outlook.com.<p>My favorite thing about the new v4 interface is that it makes the settings mobile-friendly. My Filters (eg send all emails from x to Archive) can be easily updated from my phone. I couldn’t do that from Outlook or GMail.<p>PS to those holding off on Protonmail due to lack of support for catchall on your custom domains on the Pro plan, I recommend ForwardEmail.net. It’s free, privacy-focused and has worked perfectly for me.
I am a long time customer, but there are things that keep me from much using ProtonMail. My major pain point is lack of semantic understanding of e-mail content / calendar integration. When I get an email with a hotel or airline reservation, in my world, I want an automatically generated calendar entry. I try to limit my use of tech and devices to about four hours a day, but I want that time to be hyper productive.<p>I like ProtonVPN, no complaints about that.<p>I like their web interface in general, but having a combined email and calendar app for both iOS and iPadOS, with email/calendar auto calendar entries would be fantastic.
It's amazing what they offer for free. But it is just a bit too amazing what it will cost to move my wife and 2 kids and our domains over. It's a shame, I do really want to pay them but I find it difficult to justify.<p>Or wait, now that I check again, it changed... I see that now I can have "1 - 5000 users *" for 6.25 eur/month? Is that real? A real inbox per user? Why is it only 6 users when I go to 24 eur/month? Do they mean aliases? I think they used to mean aliases... I'm confused now.<p>* Customizable features (:S)
One thing I’ve heard in the past but I am not educated enough on the subject to understand, is that proton mail‘s privacy features only work if both sides of an email are encrypted, and since most people are not using proton mail, there isn’t a lot of value in it most of the time.<p>Is this true? Is this a service mainly for people who are emailing other people on similar services?
I've been a ProtonMail, and Beta ProtonMail user, for some time now. I do feel the Beta brought a lot of improvements, but for some reason they removed the VIM bindings halfway through the Beta and never reintroduced them. It's something that seems small, but really interrupts your flow when you can't use the j/k keys to scroll through your email on the web.
I got a ProtonMail account just weeks before the infamous hacking/ransom. The fact that they _paid the ransom_ made them a no-go for me, and I never started using the account.<p>Also, AIUI, the fact that their accounts are free makes the service attractive for spammers, so email sent via their mail servers tend to get marked as spam.<p>I have since moved from Gmail to Fastmail and like it quite a lot. Any reasons for why I should reevaluate?<p>Fastmail costs money, yes, but there are other free alternatives now like Tutanota, which I surmise has the same issue in regards to spam.
If you are reading this protonmail, I would very much like to be able to have the emails within a thread sorted with the latest one on top, so that when I get many emails from a given emailer with the same subject, I do not end up at the bottom of the screen.<p>I can't find this option if it already exists.
The post is a little light on details: is this just a UI refresh? If so, it would be nice to hear what specifically was wrong with the old UI or in what ways the UI tangibly improves the process of writing, reading or managing emails.
Is there a secure mail server that I can self-host without reading a lot about how email works?<p>And, <i>if</i> I do really want to understand how email works and how to get the perfect setup for me, what's a good introduction to read?