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How California Homelessness Became a Crisis

50 pointsby ike77almost 4 years ago

12 comments

jseligeralmost 4 years ago
Short answer: CA has been underbuilding housing for close to 50 years (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;04&#x2F;14&#x2F;sf-housing&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;04&#x2F;14&#x2F;sf-housing&#x2F;</a>) and now has a severe housing shortage, to the point where a parodic response, like &quot;California will try absolutely anything to reduce homelessness, except build more housing&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcsweeneys.net&#x2F;articles&#x2F;i-will-do-anything-to-end-homelessness-except-build-more-homes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcsweeneys.net&#x2F;articles&#x2F;i-will-do-anything-to-en...</a>) is the only reasonable one.<p>I&#x27;ve worked on Prop HHH and other proposals designed to reduce homelessness in California: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;seliger.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;30&#x2F;l-digs-hole-slowly-economics-fills-back-proposition-hhh-facilities-program&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;seliger.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;30&#x2F;l-digs-hole-slowly-economics-...</a>, but none of them work, or can work, without making housing easier to build.<p>Edit to add: before someone mentions &quot;mental illness&quot; and &quot;drugs&quot; and other contributors to homelessness, yes those are real factors: that said, the lower the cost of housing, the easier it is for someone on the margin of being housed or being homeless to stay housed. The lower the cost, the easier it is for family, SSDI, Section 8, and other income supports to keep a person housed. As the cost of housing goes up, the number of people who fall from the margins of &quot;housed&quot; to &quot;homeless&quot; goes up with it. So yes, mental illness and drug abuse are factors, but they&#x27;re factors exacerbated by housing costs. They&#x27;re really red herrings relative to overall housing costs.
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okareamanalmost 4 years ago
I was once homeless in California, strung out on drugs and alcohol, unable to quit or even think about getting treatment for that and my bipolar disorder. It is my opinion that we need to go back to locking people up and forcing them into treatment for their own good. It is inhumane to leave helpless people out on the street because of some abstract concept of personal rights. I understand the motivation of mental health advocates who argue that the government has no right to force people into treatment, but it really is counter-productive. I wish I had been locked up for my own good. I was rescued by the good people at the veterans administration.
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saas_samalmost 4 years ago
There are three kinds of people experiencing homelessness in SF:<p>Drug addicts, who settle in the Bay Area because it is Paradise On Earth for drug addiction. Drugs are cheap and plentiful. Dealers transact unmolested in broad daylight in front of apathetic cops. Needles are provided by the government free of charge. Tents can be pitched on just about any sidewalk. Drug use does not even need to be discreet -- anyone who walks in SF for more than a few hours will run across someone injecting or freebasing. It&#x27;s not just the Tenderloin either.<p>The mentally ill, who cannot take advantage of services that exist to help them. There are individuals who are so out of it, so schizophrenic etc., that the only way they will ever be helped is if someone physically forces them into an institution. And can you imagine the response of SF constituents if such a policy was enacted? Totally impossible. One cell phone video of a capture gone wrong and it&#x27;s over.<p>And lastly, there are tons of people who are 100% content with living on the streets by choice. There have always been transients in society who adopt this lifestyle, in every era of history. It&#x27;s basically urban camping! No job, no responsibilities. It&#x27;s a beautiful place with amazing weather. If all of Earth could easily navigate to the Bay Area, you could fill this city to the brim with people who&#x27;d &quot;hobo&quot; it by choice.<p>There MUST be a fourth type. The person who is on the street due to financial misfortune, who had horrible luck and found themselves in a spot they couldn&#x27;t get out of. Statistically this has to exist. And we need to make sure those people get a ladder somehow to climb themselves out. Absolutely.<p>But to pretend that this fourth type is all that exists? Or that it&#x27;s the majority?<p>Not even close.
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comodore_almost 4 years ago
When was &quot;experiencing homelessness&quot; term established as the norm? what&#x27;s wrong with just &quot;homeless&quot;?
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jlmortonalmost 4 years ago
There is a basic accounting truth at the heart of this: If land and housing are good investments -- that is, they return any amount greater than wage growth -- then at some point in the future, wage income workers will not be able to afford housing.<p>There is no getting around this truth. If housing and real estate are a good investment, eventually all wage income workers will be homeless, or will be forced to leave a region. So we need to make sure as a society that housing and real estate are _not_ good investments.<p>Prior to the 1980s, real estate was not a very good investment. There might be areas that were great investments, but there was no generalized appreciation in land and housing.<p>In particular, it&#x27;s an obvious sign of a broken market when structure prices are appreciating. In a functioning market, structure prices should largely decrease in value over time, with the only exceptions being actual improvements to the property.<p>All of this is the same point as the article, that the basic issue is supply and demand of housing, and that supply problems are exacerbated by homeowners that have a large financial interest in restricting supply, and lots of tools at their disposal to prevent new housing.<p>Another important point is that while individuals might be responsible for improvements to structures which increase their utility, aesthetics, or value, in almost every case _land_ value increases are the result of large-scale societal factors, and nothing at all to do with any individual actions.<p>The question becomes, why as a society should we allow land value increases to be captured by individuals? The land has gained value because of societal changes.<p>If a new light rail line is developed by local government, land values soar within 4 blocks of the new rail line. Why do we allow that value to be captured by individuals?<p>If a region has great public universities, and high-paying companies flock to the area to hire those workers, land values soar. Why should individuals capture that value?<p>Rather than taxing property, we should tax land. Taxing structures creates a perverse incentive against improving structures. And land is the thing that is actually scarce. Taxing land would naturally encourage landowners to build higher densities where land values and demand are high.<p>And when land is sold, we should tax a very large amount of the appreciation in that land value, perhaps 90%. Society is what earned those gains, and society should reap the reward. Individuals can capture the value of increases on improvements to structures, but there&#x27;s no reason they should earn a windfall from the societal actions that increased the value of the land.
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Kapuraalmost 4 years ago
It&#x27;s crazy to me how expensive it is to live in LA compared with how little i see new construction. The magnitude of the issue really crystalized in my mind when i was talking to a friend who lived in Tokyo, and he mentioned he was paying $900 a month for his flat. It&#x27;s 40% of what I pay. Housing can&#x27;t cost this much in cities that people are expected to occupy.
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Flatcirclealmost 4 years ago
I once toured a homeless shelter in downtown Los Angeles, the guy that ran it said, &quot;see all those people that are sleeping under the awning outside, we&#x27;re trying to get them to come in and get help, but most of them don&#x27;t want to come in. Because most of them are addicts and you have to be clean inside here.&quot; He said, &quot;I&#x27;m on the front lines and I&#x27;m telling you right now, 90 percent of the homeless problem is because of drugs and alcohol&quot;
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kaiju0almost 4 years ago
The issue with any paid approach is that surrounding area will begin dumping the local homeless there. Thats where they can &quot;get the help they need&quot; without the locality they are from paying for it. This is a hard problem that looks like it needs a federal solution.
jahewsonalmost 4 years ago
It’s interesting to see numerous comments here advocating for mental asylums. Detaining anyone non-dangerous in the US is unconstitutional - the Supreme Court’s ruling in <i>O&#x27;Connor v. Donaldson</i> dates back to 1975. That’s why all those places shut down.
Empactalmost 4 years ago
&quot;a Frankenstein&#x27;s monster created by mating civil libertarianism with austerity.&quot;<p>— UC San Diego sociologist Neil Gong<p>They manage to name the two contingents that are out of power and have nothing to do with the crisis, libertarians and advocates of austerity, while leaving aside those who created the situation: progressives.
throw737858almost 4 years ago
In nice weather homelessness is bearable. But californian cities must provide basic sanitation facilities. And maybe some UBI for food, $1000&#x2F;month should do.
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ajhurlimanalmost 4 years ago
Whether rent is $1500&#x2F; month or $500&#x2F; month, I just can&#x27;t imagine the guy screaming at nobody in particular and swinging a drain pipe at tourists is going to pay for either one of them. This whole attempt to blame raising housing prices for homelessness is absurd.<p>Housing prices _are_ raising, and homelessness is getting worse, but I think the assertion that it&#x27;s the primary cause (instead of mental health and substance abuse) is disingenuous.