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A robot to replace the need for farmers to go inside the grain bin

183 pointsby ryansouzaalmost 4 years ago

18 comments

Animatsalmost 4 years ago
About 30 people a year are entrapped in grain bins. About half die. Generally, someone goes inside a grain bin only because something has gone wrong. Which is when it&#x27;s most dangerous.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;agfax.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;18&#x2F;grain-bins-sudden-death-4-ways-it-happens" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;agfax.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;18&#x2F;grain-bins-sudden-death-4-ways-...</a>
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Semiapiesalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;m kind of fascinated by how many comments in here are of the &quot;Gee, why use something so complicated? Why not just tie on a rope if you go in the silo?&quot; variety.<p>The inability to imagine that people who aren&#x27;t tech bros can and actually <i>do</i> sensible things to address problems they encounter--and that some of their problems might still be harder to solve than coding a signup form--is impressive.
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throwaway0a5ealmost 4 years ago
Friendly reminder that people who deal with &quot;unsafe by office worker standards&quot; stuff day in and day out do not shovel money at you without critical thought just because you can portray your product as improving safety. These guys aren&#x27;t wringing their hands and clutching their pearls over the thought of a dangerous job. They&#x27;re finding a way to be careful and mitigate the risks of the worst outcomes and then getting the job done. To them it&#x27;s no different than trying not to land on your ass trying to pin an implement to the tractor in the mud. Going into a silo or grain hopper is not a dangerous task to them. It&#x27;s just a task and like any other task you should approach it in a smart manner if you want the best results. Selling something as a safety improvement isn&#x27;t that easy because the physics involved in bulk materials or heavy equipment are always going to hurt people who don&#x27;t work smart given enough exposure and likewise the ROI of removing any one type of exposure is low.<p>Now, if the machine can all but eliminate the need for the manual job they might sell a few. Because farmers love when shit just magically works because the day only has so many hours in it and one less someone has to stop what you&#x27;re doing to deal with.<p>On a more technical note, bulk dry goods can generally be persuaded to follow gravity if you give them a kick start with vibration. This approach has a bunch of pluses (the equipment is very reliable and typically you can resolve blockage by varying the frequency) but I don&#x27;t know why it isn&#x27;t used for grain (though it is used on the trucks and rail cars that transport grain). You typically see it in bulk material handling settings where you can&#x27;t afford to stop the line and&#x2F;or it&#x27;s too dangerous to make someone clear a blockage manually so I assume it&#x27;s a cost thing and farming margins aren&#x27;t big enough. It seems like these guys went and invented a robot that solves a problem that has an existing solution. But the article doesn&#x27;t mention why the existing solution doesn&#x27;t get used for grain and why the new robot will. I get that it&#x27;s a high level press release but I still wanna know.
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wbcalmost 4 years ago
Probably coincidence but I&#x27;ve noticed a ton of grain articles lately, here&#x27;s a trending on on reddit from today:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;todayilearned&#x2F;comments&#x2F;nwmect&#x2F;til_that_10s_of_farmers_die_each_year_from_grain&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;todayilearned&#x2F;comments&#x2F;nwmect&#x2F;til_t...</a>
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bewareandawarealmost 4 years ago
This seems like another high tech solution looking for a problem. I&#x27;m not heavy agriculture savy but it seems to me the same could be solved by having 2 or 3 archimedes screws on the bin which could keep grain moving over time and preventing it from forming the clods.<p>The bot could also be radio controlled and it would still remove the need of a human going in.<p>Another pet peeve of mine is the robot-as-a-service part - can&#x27;t we just buy stuff and keep it anymore?
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neilvalmost 4 years ago
Whomever manages to sell a product called &quot;Grain Weevil&quot; to <i>farmers</i> must be unfathomably brilliant.
Trasteralmost 4 years ago
I would be kind of interested to know how many times the farmers need to go into the grain bin to rescue the robot.
senecaalmost 4 years ago
Agriculture is an area still ripe for technological innovation. It looks less and less like it did a generation ago, but there are still many dangerous tasks, like this one, involved and, I believe, many that could be made much more efficient.<p>I love to see projects like this making a difference for people doing critical, and often dangerous, blue collar work.
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atum47almost 4 years ago
Just saw an article on Reddit in how dangerous this is. Back in college I was being asked to develop a project to a rice factory, so I went there several times. In one occasion a worker fell in one of those grain bin and died a slowly death. Scary as heck.
voisinalmost 4 years ago
Crazy that this work has been done by hand. I always assumed there would be an augur or something inside.
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h2odragonalmost 4 years ago
A farmer I knew had run the numbers on the cycle time for unloading grain wagons at harvest time; paying neighborhood kids $3&#x2F;hr (in 1982 or so) to dance on top of the grain as it drained paid off. There were bars to grab on the top of the wagons so it wasn&#x27;t <i>deeply</i> dangerous, but it certainly got exciting.<p>His kids were the ones driving the wagon trains from the fields to the silos. That was even more exciting. No insurance, just &quot;if you break it you have to help fix it&quot;
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nico_halmost 4 years ago
Here is a negative two cents idea: Attach a dumb auger drive &quot;robot&quot; to the end of tether adjustable from the top, with an umbilical to solar panels, maybe a lidar or sonar to see the shape of the field, make it go in spiral back and forth Roomba style. Eventually you&#x27;ll have run all over the grain multiple times. No need for fancy deep learning AI.
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spywaregorillaalmost 4 years ago
&gt; The Grain Weevil powered by JLI Robotics is a mobile robot that scurries across the top of the grain inside of a storage bin performing tasks that no human should ever do.<p>This felt like a particularly strong wording. Is it due to risk of drowning in grain? Or just an annoying task?
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jen_halmost 4 years ago
Met a couple a few years ago who’d recently lost their teenaged son tamping down a corn bin; still have nightmares about the details. This will be wonderful if it’s accessible to all farmers.
aurelianitoalmost 4 years ago
In Argentina, silos have been mostly replaced by silo bags with grain inside. Like this one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;agroverdad.com.ar&#x2F;2019&#x2F;04&#x2F;como-lograr-en-8-pasos-un-almacenamiento-en-silobolsa-seguro-y-eficiente" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;agroverdad.com.ar&#x2F;2019&#x2F;04&#x2F;como-lograr-en-8-pasos-un-...</a>
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sunshineforeveralmost 4 years ago
Once we can make bread with nothing but sunlight and robots humanity will be so much closer to being free from work.
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djmipsalmost 4 years ago
If grain bins are dangerous to go inside, maybe there&#x27;s a low tech solution like safety lines attached to a belt similar to mountain climbing or high rise construction.
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jonplackettalmost 4 years ago
Can you make a big one I can drive around some sand dunes?
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