It'll probably just be "Windows" and will continue to be updated every 6 months like Windows 10 currently is. I think this was the intention with Windows 10 anyway, hence the "last version of Windows" stuff. I wonder if this next version of Windows is an attempt to throw off some of the bad rap Windows 10's gotten with the "forced updates", unpopular Start menu design, ads on the lock screen, bundled shitware games, etc.
"a more modern look and a redesigned Start menu"<p>Oh please no.<p>Hopefully the new OS will lead to less updates for Windows 10 being force pushed to my computer.
Windows 10 did the unthinkable for me. It made my house Windows free since 1998, in 2020!<p>Now I have two Ubuntu 20.04 laptops - Toshiba SatellitePro and Dell Inspiron. Windows 10 broke the Toshiba touchpad and wouldn't upgrade from 8.1 without fits, seizures and loss of data. With Snap I was able to port most of my MS Office and other windows software.<p>TBH, Dell did have issues around the infamous Nvidia display drivers that would freeze the screen needing a hard reboot. But at least my laptops are able to bounce back to enjoy the rest of their natural life!
I like Windows as an end-user OS. Works with all my equipment. The only horribly annoying feature is the lack of borders around windows which sometimes make it very, very difficult to distinguish two overlapping windows.<p>I am a heavy user of Linux in the back (all my servers and containers run some kind of Linux since '93) and I desperately tried to use it on the desktop but is it a big pile of crap.<p>SO I will live in that duality forever (I do not like macOS)
I'm staying away from Windows as much as I can. The Windows 10 home edition is so bloated with nonsense applications (of which some can't be removed directly). Also, it is odd that there are still some icons and popups that have this old Vista (and sometimes even 98) style. So incredibly messy. The entire thing feels like an American commercial during the super bowl. Bleh.
I truly believe that my hardware running a Linux OS gets to live a longer, healthier and happier life than if it was running a Windows OS.
Honestly, HN may want to just consider banning any site that runs this news article from being posted on HN, because this claim is basically proof they did not do even cursory research before posting.<p>Here's the <i>2015</i> story covering this date announcement, which bears no relation to recent rumors at all: <a href="https://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/20/microsoft-to-support-windows-10-until-at-least-2025/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/20/microsoft-to-support-windo...</a>
Microsoft really needs to consider building a completely new OS that doesn’t have the legacy issues that plague Windows 10. It feels like the paint cracks off as you root around each generation of interface.<p>By all means keep a LTS version of Windows, but draw a line.
>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service"<p>Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows clients as offline even though their internet connection is functioning normally, has trouble putting my laptop to sleep when I shut the lid (with ALL programs closed), and the recent 21H1 update caused a number of blue screens across our fleet.<p>Just fix your damn mess before you "hail a new era in personal computing", Micosoft.
Windows architecture is a mess, I wish more software companies would support Linux as cross platform compatibility gets easier each day but that doesn’t seem to be case.<p>Unfortunately it is really hard for game development companies to develop on Linux as most of the software used by artists require Windows to function. Hopefully one day my company will be able ditch Windows completely but it might take another decade.
I think I'm getting old. In my memory, Windows 10 is still "the new thing" that released not so long ago :-]<p>I still use 7, because of inertia and it's hard to change something that "just works" (read: I know its shortcomings by heart so I don't even need to think about how to avoid them), and also it accumulates years of fine tunings, configurations, and personalization.<p>Also I bought a laptop that "already" came with 10, and oh boy it didn't do a good job of convincing me to upgrade my main computer.
Funny story. Most recent Windows10 update broke Fusion360's ability to do some things. In my case (and that of my customer) it crashed every time we went to export the CAM processor for the PCB export in the electronics section.
Happened after Saturday's big update too.
But if I use Win7 it exports just fine...even though there is big flags everywhere saying don't use Win7 with Fusion.<p>The only reason I don't go to linux entirely is software like Fusion360 which are windows/mac primarily. Kicad is already better than Eagle for electronics design (especially 5.99) and I have some hope that Freecad will do some updates which will make it a serious competitor in the CAD field.
Well, we all know the every-other-version-of-Windows-rule:<p>Windows 2000 - Good<p>Windows ME - Bad<p>Windows XP - Good<p>Windows Vista - Bad<p>Windows 7 - Good<p>Windows 8 - Bad<p>Windows 10 - Good<p>Windows 11 - ????
Many of my coworkers pine for a Mac because their Windows experience is so awful. They don't care about any of the features Apple touts. They just want the stability - updates don't happen unless you request for them to happen, your machine doesn't force you to re-boot when you need to get something done <i>right now</i>. There's a myriad of annoyances that add up to making Windows an infuriating platform to use when needing to get work done.<p>Maybe the next version of Windows (or whatever it's to be called) will see Microsoft exit out of the OS business. I've often thought Microsoft should play the script Apple played: use a Linux kernel, wrap the Windows APIs around that kernel, create a Windows desktop environment. Most of your existing apps from the past 30 years would still run and you no longer have to maintain a kernel and drivers. Heck, you might even offer a "bring your own kernel" offering where the user can pick which distro they want and run your Windows desktop environment when desired.<p>I'd love to see the numbers on the net profit Microsoft is making from Windows and how much pull-in business Windows is still generating for them.
> Rebranding rumours aside, it is likely to include a host of new features, [...]<p>More ads? Mandatory MS cloud account login? Monthly update fee? CCP localization option featuring content censoring and reporting? cmd.exe rust rewrite?<p>> a more modern look [...]<p>New OS comes with a new look. The new look is not the old look. Water is wet.<p>> and a redesigned Start menu.<p>We went through this already.
It's an interesting experiment to ask the average Microsoft Windows user to identify - let's say 5 things - in their current workflows, that they couldn't do in Microsoft Windows XP (or 7, etc - pick the subject's age-appropriate release).<p>Similarly for versions of Microsoft Office products.
Why does it just feel like Microsoft is copying Apple? When Microsoft launched Windows 10 it seemed like MacOS was going to stay at 10 forever.<p>Now that macOS has moved on to 11, but is commonly only known by named releases, Microsoft is going to do the same...<p>I'm looking forward to the next Windows being named after natural features of Washington state
@Everyone 'Windows 10 LTSB' is the secret good user-focused version of Windows 10.<p>It doesnt come with any shit on it (windows store, metro, xboxlive, cortana etc etc.) MS have also promised It will not receive any updates that change its functionality but will receive security updates, for 10 years. You can only get it if u buy in bulk tho. Or, u can just get it from tpb.. Considering MS are intentionally not selling by far the most user-respecting version of their OS to regular folks, it behooves us to pirate it.
I used to be a MacOS user for a few years until Apple decided my Dual CPU Xeon powered cheese grater Mac Pro was not going to be supported.<p>The linux desktop has been a mess for years so no thanks but I do use UnRaid on my fileserver.<p>So I went back to Windows 10 and a Dell and it was not so bad - it works for my needs - yes had some issues around Windows Update being a hit and miss affair sometimes and a recent AMD Radeon driver update on my older GPU giving me grief.
Windows 10 LTSC is the only version of windows released in the last decade that I would consider to be a commercially viable OS. It's a shame that it's nearly impossible to install, and I have to resort to illegal software to crack it to run on my PC.
I am morbidly curious to see how they screw up this Windows 11 to make it more un-useable than mainline Windows 10.
Innovation is good and Windows will have had a 10 year run. I think that's enough.<p>I just hope they don't pull a Windows 8 again with Windows 11.
I have a Win 7 laptop from 2011 that honestly runs faster than a modern desktop with twice the RAM running Win 10. Had Win 10 since 2015 and it seems to be getting slower with each update.<p>Which flavour of Linux is closest to 'just works'? Mint?
I'd love it if they released it as a desktop manager for Linux, so you could login as GNOME, or WindowsPenguin.<p>Paid for repo access, and an optional paid upgrade to allow it to run like wine on other DM's.<p>That would be the perfect match for me!
For naming: I would suggest just calling the next version "Windows" with no other modifiers.<p>I think it was a good call handling Windows 10 long term as free updates. I assume they will do the same for the next iteration.
See also <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27476032" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27476032</a> from 4 days ago here on HN
windows 11 ought to be a Linux distribution. That's much more sensible and less work for everyone. I've emailed Satya about this multiple times. Hopefully, he listens
>And Microsoft says its successor will represent one of the "most significant updates" to the OS in the past decade.<p>Yeah that's not ominous at all.
What happened to the rumours that Microsoft was making a Windows Wrapper on top of the Linux kernel?<p><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/open-sources-eric-raymond-windows-10-will-soon-be-just-an-emulation-layer-on-linux-kernel/" rel="nofollow">https://www.zdnet.com/article/open-sources-eric-raymond-wind...</a>
It’s going to be more Linuxy somehow. I don’t know how, but there’s going to be something with Linux like WSL but more.<p>What if they included two kernels, both Windows and Linux? Just speculating.
To be fair, Linux distros change even faster than that, but it's pretty annoying that neither of them can make a single version that lasts more than a decade. I don't want to keep upgrading software my whole life, as if I need a new hammer every few years because nails keep "innovating"