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John Carpenter’s ‘They Live’ was supposed to be a warning

108 pointsby skanderbmalmost 4 years ago

17 comments

riffraffalmost 4 years ago
I wonder how many people familiar with OBEY iconography variations[0] or OBEY Clothing actually watched They Live.<p>It&#x27;s a pretty corny movie, but it&#x27;s quite good.<p>And regarding warnings, I can&#x27;t help but feel Idiocracy is also one we&#x27;re not paying attention to.<p>[0] I own a t-shirt with futurama&#x27;s hypnotoad, and I love it
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pmoriartyalmost 4 years ago
<i>&quot;They Live, meanwhile, sort of became reality... Drones in the sky, conspiracies in our heads, militarized police in the streets, economic inequality in every corner of society, media that seeks to control our minds&quot;</i><p><i>Max Headroom</i> and <i>Brazil</i> were a couple of other 80&#x27;s scifi films which were uncannily prescient.
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westcortalmost 4 years ago
Slavoj Zizek noted the importance of his film in “The Pervert’s Guide to Cinema.” I highly recommend the film and “The Pervert’s Guide to Ideology” as an explanation of our current world systems.
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cratermoonalmost 4 years ago
If you haven&#x27;t seen &quot;They Live&quot;, I recommend you watch it on a double bill with Alex Cox&#x27;s 1984 masterpiece &quot;Repo Man&quot;
beebeepkaalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve had bad luck showing They Live to youngsters. I don&#x27;t know if it&#x27;s the style or the message but they all seemed bored to death.<p>I love it but then again I am a borderline paranoid old fart
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jessaustinalmost 4 years ago
<i>But the meta-narrative of &quot;They Live&quot;, about the fear of being controlled by some massive conspiracy only you and a select group of “awakened” radicals can see, is a different matter. That is the story of how many of us now see reality. While the text of &quot;They Live&quot; isn’t all that scary, the subtext is among the most terrifying aspects of life in the modern world.</i><p>So, it&#x27;s important not to fear the actual deficiencies in democracy and self-rule that majorities of people in many nations recognize, but it&#x27;s totally rational to fear the fear of those actual problems. &quot;Meta-narrative&quot;, indeed.
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CrazyPyroLinuxalmost 4 years ago
I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I&#x27;m all outta bubble gum.
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8bitsrulealmost 4 years ago
&quot;Wherever a man goes, men will pursue and paw him with their dirty institutions, and, if they can, constrain him to belong to their desperate odd-fellow society.<p>⇐ Thoreau (Walden)
jl6almost 4 years ago
Mostly unrelated shoutout to <i>Flashback</i>, the 90s game that totally ripped off They Live’s glasses but was great anyway.
dominicjjalmost 4 years ago
So on the one hand, They Live should not be regarded as &#x27;Cliffs Notes explaining the oppressive power structures underpinning the so-called civilized world.&#x27; But on the other, The Thing is about &#x27;the ways we are undone by our inability to see and understand other people.&#x27; The author seems to want it both ways.
pmoriartyalmost 4 years ago
<i>&quot;...in They Live, ideology is not imposed, Zizek postulates. Rather, Nada puts on the glasses in order to see how things really are, because ideology is &quot;spontaneous relationships to our social world&quot; and therefore indivisible from reality. The glasses, therefore, finally remove ideology from the equation.&quot;</i><p>Except that in <i>They Live</i> ideology <i>is</i> imposed by the aliens.<p><i>&quot;In the movie&#x27;s most notorious scene, Nada tries to impose this truth on another person, brawling with Armitage for several minutes in order to force him to put on the glasses. This endless fight scene, possibly the longest in cinema history, is a metaphor for the struggle to achieve enlightenment. &quot;To step out of ideology ... you must force yourself to do it,&quot; Zizek concludes. &quot;Freedom hurts.&quot;&quot;</i><p>But Piper&#x27;s character didn&#x27;t have to force himself to put on the glasses. There was no struggle and it didn&#x27;t hurt.<p>Zizek is amusing and I agree with many of his left-wing sentiments, but a lot of what he says is pure bullshit, concocted to sound profound with zero substance to it if you think about it for half a second.
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nomdepalmost 4 years ago
I will love a remake, I feel the message of the original is lost because of the incredibly corny and low budget production
jvanderbotalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;d like to introduce the writer to ... all of cyberpunk over a beer or weekend.
Vasloalmost 4 years ago
As I read this, I felt like my head fell into the cheese dip back in 1957.
aww_dangalmost 4 years ago
The author vaguely stumbles through the partisan goal posts with loosely associated leftisms. Globalism isn&#x27;t a concern. It doesn&#x27;t mount any propaganda, because: &quot;Look over there, it is capitalism!&quot;<p>If that&#x27;s not enough, the buffet also includes the tired trope of associating right wingers with anti-semitism. Somehow Trump is mixed into the smorgasbord.<p>There&#x27;s some irony in him missing the broader point of the film while arriving at a conclusion about ideological blinders.
csbartusalmost 4 years ago
Control is the driving force behind evolution. The total control of thought is inevitable. With that we will enter into a new metasystem where we will be the second most intelligent lifeform.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;metamn.io&#x2F;gust" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;metamn.io&#x2F;gust</a>
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gweinbergalmost 4 years ago
The fight scene where RRP forces the other guy to put on the glasses was the inspiration for the cripple fight episode of South Park. And that really is the best thing to come out of the film. Really, it was every bit as shallow and superficial as it seemed. &quot;People I dislike are like evil space aliens&quot;. &quot;No, it&#x27;s YOU GUYS that are the ones like evil space aliens.&quot; There was no more depth to it than that.
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