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JanusGraph – Distributed, open source, scalable graph database

82 pointsby patternexonalmost 4 years ago

7 comments

mrdoopsalmost 4 years ago
A lot of comments not sure about what Graph DBs are good for:<p>* Flexible knowledge association i.e. Knowledge Graphing<p>* Modeling and querying associations &#x2F; models with many-steps-removed requirements<p>* Expert Systems &#x2F; Inference Engines<p>* Lazy traversal for complex job scheduling<p>Graph DBs are not good at being a general purpose 95% of use cases database. Just use Postgres&#x2F;MySQL if you&#x27;re not sure. We use Neptune (AWS managed GraphDB) to model cybersecurity dependencies between many companies and report on supply chain vulnerabilities many steps removed. Those kinds of queries are non-trivial and expensive on anything but a Graph Database.<p>As GraphDBs meet niche query requirements you usually have other databases involved in the full application. If you want to tractably manage many databases in a system you ideally want to be in streaming &#x2F; event sourced semantics. If you&#x27;re already in an imperative crud-around-data &#x2F; batch pipeline you&#x27;ll find greater maintenance costs in adopting a GraphDB or any additional DB for that matter.
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freewilly1040almost 4 years ago
Graph databases have been the great white whale at my org for a number of years. We gave a crack at Janus a while back. It (like a few attempts at Neo4J) failed to deliver on the promise of unlocking queries with more than a hop or two, while dramatically underperforming on those one or two hop queries vs a graph implemented in MySQL.
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rektidealmost 4 years ago
There were a couple years where it was mostly abandoned. Good to see this solid graph database being well maintained. the milestones[1] mostly show a lot of upgrading libraries, some enhancements&#x2F;features sprinkled in, but for a while Janus was nearly abandoned.<p>Maintenance re-started in 2017, with IBM &amp; Google stepping up to back it[2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;JanusGraph&#x2F;janusgraph&#x2F;milestones?state=closed" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;JanusGraph&#x2F;janusgraph&#x2F;milestones?state=cl...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;architecht.io&#x2F;google-ibm-back-new-open-source-graph-database-project-janusgraph-1d74fb78db6b" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;architecht.io&#x2F;google-ibm-back-new-open-source-graph-...</a>
speedgoosealmost 4 years ago
Sorry to ask about it, but while deciding the name of your Java graph database, how did you ended up with anus?
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Graphguyalmost 4 years ago
Detailed read from two contributors on the project- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ibm.com&#x2F;cloud&#x2F;blog&#x2F;database-deep-dives-janusgraph" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ibm.com&#x2F;cloud&#x2F;blog&#x2F;database-deep-dives-janusgrap...</a>
antplsalmost 4 years ago
To me, the downside of graph db is the non-standardized query language.<p>I tried Gremlin but it feels like an imperative DSL. Cypher queries are more readable, but are limited to Neo4J. I am looking forward for Open Cypher or maybe a variation of Facebook GraphQL.
axiosgunnaralmost 4 years ago
Would it make sense to use a graph DB to model file hierarchies (folders and subfolders) at scale?<p>(hundreds of thousands of folders)<p>The idea would be to use a graph DB for a first query to get the file ids in scope (all files inside a given folder and its subfolders) before running the actual SQL query, eg creation_date &lt; foo AND file_id in [array from graph db output]