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Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

151 pointsby RcrdBrtalmost 4 years ago

12 comments

squarefootalmost 4 years ago
Interesting, although using an already usability challenged platform like a cellphone to me isn&#x27;t the best choice around. But I&#x27;m biased by having big fingers and some problems reading those small screens without my 2nd pair of glasses.<p>I&#x27;m still hoping the project below shows one day it&#x27;s not a pile of vaporware.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pocket.popcorncomputer.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pocket.popcorncomputer.com&#x2F;</a>
axegon_almost 4 years ago
&gt; The schematics and PCB layout have not been released, so the OTG messenger is not an open-source hardware project yet, but Trevor says it may become open source if there’s enough positive interest from the community.<p>My disappointment is immeasurable.
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thomblesalmost 4 years ago
Great choice of outer hardware. My old E63 was the last phone I had where I could legitimately touch type, and I still miss it.
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Shankalmost 4 years ago
On one of the example phone displays, you can see:<p>&gt; Secure 4K encryption<p>I understand wanting to have some kind of peace-of-mind marketing statement, but encryption has everything to do with the chosen cipher suite and implementation, and while 4096-bit encryption can technically be called “4k” this furthers misconceptions around key size and strength [0]. This seems like another effort to borrow the marketing effect of 4K displays.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.cloudflare.com&#x2F;why-are-some-keys-small&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.cloudflare.com&#x2F;why-are-some-keys-small&#x2F;</a>
nextaccounticalmost 4 years ago
This should link to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TrevorAttema&#x2F;OTGMessenger" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TrevorAttema&#x2F;OTGMessenger</a> and not to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnx-software.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;07&#x2F;09&#x2F;nokia-e63-phone-converted-into-lora-messenger-for-secure-off-the-grid-communication&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnx-software.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;07&#x2F;09&#x2F;nokia-e63-phone-conv...</a><p>Or at very least, link to the original reporting on hackaday <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackaday.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;26&#x2F;lora-messenger-in-nokias-shell&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackaday.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;26&#x2F;lora-messenger-in-nokias-she...</a><p>(the hackaday link, at least, mentions another projects to convert cell phones into another thing: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackaday.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;26&#x2F;lora-messenger-in-nokias-shell&#x2F;#comment-6360394" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackaday.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;26&#x2F;lora-messenger-in-nokias-she...</a>)
baradhiren07almost 4 years ago
Github link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TrevorAttema&#x2F;OTGMessenger" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TrevorAttema&#x2F;OTGMessenger</a>
koksik202almost 4 years ago
As kid who grew up in countryside I would love to have one of these to talk to my cousin as we didn&#x27;t have computer or internet, the year was 2004 and we used to send tons of SMS but were always short on credit
ggppalmost 4 years ago
Discussion from 2 weeks ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27659105" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27659105</a>
Tepixalmost 4 years ago
It would be great if you could do voice via LoRa too but that would probably quickly exceed the duty cycle restriction.
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2Gkashmirialmost 4 years ago
What is the licensing issue with this? It is like Ham radio license ? Something else? India has started banning drones outright and walkie talkies are banned unless you have prior police verification. I think they demand that radio exam, Morse and all but im not sure. Where does this fit? Is it like cellular connection?
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TrevorAttemaalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;ll be releasing the schematics when the codebase has been cleaned up and is stable. I also found a critical hardware bug in the LiPo charging circuit which could be dangerous so once the issue is fixed, I&#x27;ll release the PCB.<p>There&#x27;s no plan to commercialize the device. However, I hope that the hacker community will eventually help take the device to the next level through hardware and software enhancements.<p>Regarding voice... The board has a MEMS microphone linked to PWM and the STM32H7 has sufficient bandwidth to compress voice in real-time and package it ready for transmission. I plan to add short message voice transmission soon.<p>Regarding LoRa and LoRaWan... there have been suggestions to greatly improve range by piggybacking the things network. I&#x27;m investigating this. Currently, the network implementation is a simple self-healing mesh network. It features route discovery and low power performance. Standard Semtech LoRa drivers have been implemented with some important modifications to queue interrupts (better for low power management)<p>RF... the PCB features a tuned 915 mhz antenna + a microcoaxial RF connector for an external antenna. 50Ohm impedance tracing. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.farnell.com&#x2F;datasheets&#x2F;1867459.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.farnell.com&#x2F;datasheets&#x2F;1867459.pdf</a><p>PCB traces... 50 ohm impedance traces have been match length tuned for high speed NAND memory interfaces. Featuring a QuadSPI interface, the bus can operate at 160 mhz. While not super fast by todays standards, it&#x27;s a nice feature.<p>4K encryption... It&#x27;s not marketing hype or a play on 4K screens. I added incredibly strong encryption, just because it could be done. Fun to do and probably not needed... #overengineered<p>Nokia e71&#x2F;72... the PCB can be EASILY adapted to suit those cases. I&#x27;m thinking about doing it. Anyone like to assist?<p>Operating system... I&#x27;m using FreeRTOS as the kernel with custom device drivers for scattered throughout the codebase to handle the keypad, RTC, LoRa radio, LCD screen tearing, USB port, MicroSD card etc.<p>Debugging and development enhancements... I plan to 3D print a chassis to hold the phone when debugging. For this to work, the PCB needs to have pads placed strategically around the battery area so that when it&#x27;s docked, the SWD debug header, trace pins and power sources are exposed to the debug chassis pins. Next PCB version.<p>If you have any questions.... shoot. I&#x27;m happy to discuss the device here on the forum. If you have collaboration ideas, I&#x27;m open to hearing them.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TrevorAttema&#x2F;OTGMessenger" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TrevorAttema&#x2F;OTGMessenger</a>
huhtenbergalmost 4 years ago
LoRa = Long Range
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