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AWS Cost Saving Recommendations

189 pointsby jeffbargalmost 4 years ago

20 comments

gnfargblalmost 4 years ago
I know it isn&#x27;t for everyone, but if you&#x27;re seriously trying to save cash and you can handle the trade-off of managing your own infrastructure, Hetzner has AX101s back in stock: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hetzner.com&#x2F;dedicated-rootserver&#x2F;ax101" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hetzner.com&#x2F;dedicated-rootserver&#x2F;ax101</a>. €100&#x2F;mo for 16 Ryzen 9 cores, 128GB of RAM and 3.84TB of NVMe. Unlimited traffic.
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StratusBenalmost 4 years ago
:wave:<p>I&#x27;m a Co-Founder at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vantage.sh&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vantage.sh&#x2F;</a> - thanks for posting this, Jeff!<p>I think the biggest call out here is that Vantage Cost Saving Recommendations are profiling not only things like AWS Savings Plans and Reserved Instances but we are also directly integrated with AWS Service APIs that allow us to surface higher-fidelity cost-savings measures on a per AWS service or resource basis. Over time, we will be adding to the suite of checks and recommendations.<p>Also, it&#x27;s worth calling out that these recommendations are available to all users -- including users in our free tier.<p>I&#x27;m happy to answer any questions if folks have them.
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mfrye0almost 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve been doing some AWS optimization recently. For my setup, which heavily uses a lot of short job based queue patterns, I&#x27;ve had a lot of success with the following:<p>1) Moving to spot instances where possible 2) Autoscaling rules 3) Reserved instances where possible 4) Moving everything to AWS Graviton based instances<p>I cut the bill by ~70%.
jmann99999almost 4 years ago
I don&#x27;t know anything about Vantage. It sounds like people have had good luck with them.<p>However, what gets us our greatest savings on AWS are two things.<p>First, we have the luxury of being able to take advantage of Reserved instances. We have decided how much we are wiling to commit on EC2&#x27;s, RDS, etc. and it saves us 10-30% depending on what we do.<p>Second, and this is perhaps the more interesting one. We started working with an &quot;AWS Advanced Partner.&quot; Billing goes through them and that reduces our charges. In addition, they pitch projects of ours to AWS and if they are interesting enough to AWS, AWS reduces charges for periods of time on servers related to those developments.<p>While we use AWS, I think the game is the same with Google or Microsoft. So, if you are looking to save some money, you may look into companies who are Advanced AWS Partners, Premier Google Partners, or Silver Microsoft Partners. It&#x27;s likely they can help you out.
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jpr5almost 4 years ago
Really digging this product so far. So many times I&#x27;ve set up complicated multi-region service architectures in AWS and will still struggle to produce simple POVs on cost consumption (and credit usage&#x2F;outlook, for all us startups).<p>This thing is pretty damn straightforward and simple (which is good), and TIL from Vantage that I&#x27;ve been using the wrong volume type - gp3 is better and would save me money. I feel dumb not knowing, but now Vantage made me a little smarter. ;-) Three cheers for the cost savings recommendations!
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cratermoonalmost 4 years ago
I think this advice is probably the most straightforward suggestion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lastweekinaws.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;to-save-money-on-your-aws-bill-turn-that-s-off&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lastweekinaws.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;to-save-money-on-your-aws...</a>
SamuelAdamsalmost 4 years ago
This seems like an ad for vantage more than a cost-savings tutorial. Can anyone talk about what specifically vantage is doing to identify cost-saving areas?<p>Otherwise the title is misleading. Mods, can you update the title to be the actual title of the article?
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nijavealmost 4 years ago
Maybe this is more advanced, but just going off the screen shot it looks the same as Trusted Advisor <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;premiumsupport&#x2F;technology&#x2F;trusted-advisor&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;premiumsupport&#x2F;technology&#x2F;trusted-adv...</a><p>If you have Enterprise Support, your TAMs can also help with cost and can arrange meetings and resources to address cost concerns, as well (including architectural reviews)<p>If you&#x27;re not large enough for that to apply or don&#x27;t plan for huge growth, personally, I&#x27;d strongly reconsider AWS. Amazon&#x27;s APIs and infrastructure automation can give small teams a lot of leverage to run massive amounts of infrastructure and quickly scale, but things with a small, fixed set of infrastructure might be worth a look on VMs, etc
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marsdepinskialmost 4 years ago
With Amazon and any variable pricing model, there is no limit to how much you will pay. It&#x27;s a conscious business model decision and a very smart one by Amazon. You want to be smart about costs? Limit your downside risk ie. Fix your costs.
bryliealmost 4 years ago
DigitalOcean App Platform is simple and affordable:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.digitalocean.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;app-platform&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.digitalocean.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;app-platform&#x2F;</a>
dsincl12almost 4 years ago
Did a quick search and didn&#x27;t see UpCloud mentioned. Having used AWS, GCP, Azure and DigitalOcean, one of the strong points of UpCloud (except for their pricing and product offerings) have been their customer interaction. Hands down the best experience I&#x27;ve ever had both from support and sales. I reached out to support 2:15AM in their live chat and got my issues resolved as we spoke. Good luck getting that with one of the big companies.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upcloud.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upcloud.com&#x2F;</a>
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spullaraalmost 4 years ago
The best way to save AWS costs is to optimize your code. Seen it over and over again at many portfolio companies.
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rob_calmost 4 years ago
Was hoping there would be more of a numerical comparison to various strategies when scaling and a comparison to other strategies such as say self-hosting :(<p>(aws has a useful place and a use, but obviously spawning a new vm for every query would just maximise cost over time)
KronisLValmost 4 years ago
If you&#x27;re somewhat poor like me (living in Eastern Europe, current net salary around 1500 euros a month; provides decent quality of life here but not in a globalized economy), then the first step of saving money would be not to bother with the expensive cloud vendors: AWS, Azure and GCP.*<p>* this advice does not apply if you&#x27;re a cog in an enterprise, then use whatever the company mandates<p>Here&#x27;s a few alternatives, from the most expensive to the least expensive:<p>DigitalOcean: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.digitalocean.com&#x2F;pricing&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.digitalocean.com&#x2F;pricing&#x2F;</a> A pretty popular VPS provider that i&#x27;d say is cheaper than the above to start us out. They also offer a whole bunch of different managed services, if you&#x27;re into that sort of stuff.<p>Vultr: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vultr.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;cloud-compute&#x2F;#pricing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vultr.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;cloud-compute&#x2F;#pricing</a> Much like DigitalOcean, sans some of the managed services. On the upside, they also sell smaller instances, though those tend to be sold out in my experience.<p>Scaleway: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scaleway.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;pricing&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scaleway.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;pricing&#x2F;</a> Have a look at their Development or Starburst instances (the latter are smaller ones like Vultr), also they rival DigitalOcean in their managed offerings. Pretty good CPU performance as well, in my experience.<p>Hetzner: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hetzner.com&#x2F;cloud" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hetzner.com&#x2F;cloud</a> I&#x27;d say that they&#x27;re cheaper than all of the above, but also have a reasonably modern control panel, as well as block storage services if you need more space. ID verification might be necessary if you&#x27;re from an undesireable country, though, so YMMV.<p>Time4VPS: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.time4vps.com&#x2F;?affid=5294" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.time4vps.com&#x2F;?affid=5294</a> I have used them for almost all of my servers in the last 4 years or so (hence affiliate link in case you check them out) - the control panel is somewhat more dated and the managed offerings are limited, but they&#x27;re one of the cheapest legitimate hosts, since they&#x27;re owned by a Lithuanian telco. They also offer noticeable discounts if you reserve instances for a year and i&#x27;d say they&#x27;re a good choice for most purposes, provided that you have backups (i have a few backup servers in my home for that purpose).<p>Contabo: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;contabo.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;vps&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;contabo.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;vps&#x2F;</a> Perhaps the best specs that you can get on the cheap, especially if you&#x27;re after a decent amount of storage, which is larger than most of the other hosts provide you with (in lieu of block storage services). They do have a setup fee for the instances, the process seems at least partially manual on their part, the web UI is the most antiquated i&#x27;ve seen of the bunch, the performance of the instances is mediocre (they probably overprovision), but it all seems to work regardless.<p>There are also other hosts out there, but the shadier they are, the more likely data loss and&#x2F;or theft is. But hey, balance your needs with your capabilities to find what works the best for you! Perhaps i&#x27;ll even write a blog post and include some automated benchmarks in the future on my blog.<p>Edit: if you feel like spending some of your time looking for bargains (yaay for low alternative costs), then feel free to have a look at LowEndBox, where interesting deals are sometimes advertised: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lowendbox.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lowendbox.com&#x2F;</a><p>Personally, however, i&#x27;d only pick companies that have been around for $SOME years.
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freediveralmost 4 years ago
Another way to slash cost is to use <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloudoptimizer.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloudoptimizer.io</a> to locate cheapest cloud resources (disclaimer: my project)
jasfialmost 4 years ago
Write and use high performance software, you pay for what you use after all. I&#x27;ve been using Nim for some time now, and it gives me that with a syntax comparable to Python.
Aeolunalmost 4 years ago
Eh, my only experience with Vantage so far has been their apparent purchase and breaking of the ec2instances website.
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marsdepinskialmost 4 years ago
Step 1. Stop using AWS.
boba7almost 4 years ago
By not using AWS I have saved thousands. This one simple trick.
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rvnxalmost 4 years ago
Switch from AWS to Google Cloud to save costs and not have to pay an external service to give you sizing recommendations.
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