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FAA warns Musk that he is building Super Heavy launch tower without permission

72 pointsby surgeryresalmost 4 years ago

12 comments

mullingitoveralmost 4 years ago
Seems like much ado about nothing unless SpaceX is outright lying:<p>&gt; SpaceX told the FAA in May that it did not believe the review was necessary because it only intends to use the &quot;integration tower for production, research, and development purposes and not for FAA-licensed or -permitted launches,&quot; the FAA said.<p>Does the FAA have jurisdiction over this tower if they&#x27;re not actually using it for launches?
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kart23almost 4 years ago
Why is the headline editorialized to include Elon&#x27;s name? Reuter&#x27;s title reads &#x27;U.S. warns SpaceX its new Texas launch site tower not yet approved&#x27;.
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Covzirealmost 4 years ago
Sorry if this is too off topic, but that picture in the article really puts the scale of Starship in perspective. It&#x27;s really huge.
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ctothalmost 4 years ago
Anybody else get flashbacks to Manifold: Time? Eccentric entrepreneur building awesome rockets in the desert while the government tries to prevent him from launching?
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hourislatealmost 4 years ago
The FAA is in a pissing match with SpaceX. They are an organization that was setup to deal with 1 or 2 space launches a year. They don&#x27;t know how to operate to accommodate the amount of launches SpaceX wants to have. So instead of changing or modernizing they flex. The old I&#x27;ll show them who&#x27;s in charge, will drive them out of business with paperwork and a bureaucracy. Who do they think they are wanting to expand Human civilization to Mars! Musk should just pay them off the way Boeing did.
hirundoalmost 4 years ago
This project appears to be on the critical path to making humanity a multi planetary species. That should be balanced against whatever impact the environmental review finds. Not that it should give SpaceX a blank check. But to the extent that the environment is fragile and needs protection, it&#x27;s even more important to not have all of our eggs in it.
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mlindneralmost 4 years ago
The title is a bit FUD, SpaceX already received permission to build the tower from the FAA.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;oeaaa.faa.gov&#x2F;oeaaa&#x2F;external&#x2F;searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&amp;oeCaseID=474570805&amp;row=115" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;oeaaa.faa.gov&#x2F;oeaaa&#x2F;external&#x2F;searchAction.jsp?action...</a><p>There&#x27;s the document.
perryizgr8almost 4 years ago
Slightly relevant video: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;gNFyLGlR-0w" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;gNFyLGlR-0w</a>
gnarbarianalmost 4 years ago
better to say sorry than ask permission. I know an awful lot about the FAA. Progress demands risk and the FAA is a pathologically risk averse agency. Many people in the agency understand this but outwardly must tow the party line. therefore when the FAA is being unreasonable I believe SpaceX should ignore them and push the envelope.
staunchalmost 4 years ago
&gt; <i>FAA Administrator Steve Dickson spoke with Musk on March 12 for 30 minutes to stress &quot;the FAA’s role in protecting public safety by ensuring regulatory compliance....</i><p>If there are legit concerns that the FAA needs to be involved in, that&#x27;s fine. But the fact that Dickson is personally involved is a sign he might be the kind of person that likes to flex on people. There&#x27;s almost certainly no good reason for him to be personally involved.<p>If Dickson is just out to engage in a public pissing contest with Elon Musk, it&#x27;s not hard to predict the outcome. Musk, in 2021, is not easily bullied.
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bpodgurskyalmost 4 years ago
The FAA, more than any technical reason, explains why SpaceX bought two oil rigs to perform oceanic launches.
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jimbob45almost 4 years ago
“Fine, I’ll take my knowledge and business to China”<p>“Okay, okay we’re sorry, Mr. Musk”
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