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Ask HN: Why are you a competitive person?

22 pointsby 2bor-2nalmost 4 years ago
People who are competitive, what drives you really? Do you feel jealous when you see other people getting successful.<p>I have never been a competitive person and always cooperated with other people even at the expense of my own success, that&#x27;s what I want to change that. Any suggestions?

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throwaway3b03almost 4 years ago
People require affection for the complete development of their nervous system. But sometimes the caregivers can&#x27;t provide sufficient levels for said healthy development, often leaving a permanent scar in these younglings, a developmental trauma. Such a person won&#x27;t have a sufficiently developed internal sense of self-worth, self-love and will require more external supply of validation, affection. Succeeding in various endeavors becomes a &quot;life-and-death&quot; issue, because at it&#x27;s core it&#x27;s a reflection of the imperious need of a mammal for nurturing by their parents.<p>Often, siblings become competitive with each other for precisely this reason. They are competing for the little affection their caregiver provides.
AnimalMuppetalmost 4 years ago
I was competitive because my self-image was wrapped up in being the best in an unhealthy way. <i>Don&#x27;t</i> cultivate that.<p>You don&#x27;t need to be more competitive. You do need to value yourself well enough that you expect (and insist on) fair treatment for yourself - that you also deserve success, or at least that you deserve recognition and reward for the success that you helped cause.
codegeekalmost 4 years ago
For me, it is not directly about being competitive. I care about my Goals in life for which you need to compete and hence the competitive nature. I particular don&#x27;t get jealous with others but it is more of a reminder that if they can do it, so can I.<p>&quot;always cooperated with other people even at the expense of my own success&quot;<p>That is probably because you don&#x27;t give yourself a lot of importance. Start caring about YOU a lot more than you do. Be selfish. Cooperating with others is not a bad thing but it should not happen at the expense of your goals and needs in life.
giantg2almost 4 years ago
I have been competitive. I&#x27;m sort of an all-or-nothing person - my level of effort is either below a 5&#x2F;10 or I&#x27;m at a 10&#x2F;10. I think it&#x27;s mostly done out of necessity at this point in my life. Like I need to get something done and just do it. When I was younger and played sports it was about just having fun (winning is more fun), doing your best, and not letting the team down.<p>I don&#x27;t feel jealousy about other people&#x27;s success. Sometimes I do feel that specific people don&#x27;t deserve it and that there are others who do (not me, but others). I know several people who are younger than me who are much farther in their career. I&#x27;m more disappointed by the company screwing me over than the other people not getting screwed over. I guess you could say I&#x27;m pissed at the refs for not giving me a level playing field.<p>I&#x27;m not sure I have much in the way of advice. The only thing I can think of is to step up when you see that people need you. I was an intermediate developer on a team without a tech lead. I saw the team&#x27;s needs and that nobody else wanted to do it, so I did. The company screwed me over, never even promoted me to senior dev, and outsourced my job. But they can&#x27;t take the respect I earned from my team and the other teams that I interacted with in that role - they can&#x27;t take something from you that is earned from those around you. Plus, it can be fun to see coworkers&#x27; faces in shock when you tell them your an intermediate developer when they thought you were a senior for the prior couple years they worked with you.
PaulHoulealmost 4 years ago
There are various aphorisms such as ‘100-x % of everything is crap’ where x is a small number.<p>Look at it that way and there is plenty of room at the top and when you win it is not like you beat them but they beat themselves.<p>My current hustle is subartistic, namely three-sided cards that are carefully designed and printed and also have digital twins linked through QR codes and sometimes NFC.<p>I maintain a high production rate and also continuously improve quality, I want people to visit my world which is just a bit better than what they are used to. When I fall short I feed back what I learn to make the next one better. I rarely need post it notes, book marks, or the like because I take notes on reject cards that most people would think are perfectly fine.<p>I was a little infatuated with my fitness instructor who also runs a theatre troupe and she invited me to a play she was putting on, I went with my family and sister-in-law. It was awful, one of the actors didn’t even have a clean shirt.<p>She did the work to draw me in and I could have been an advocate in so many ways (already I bought 4 tickets to her show) but she blew it.<p>So for me being competitive is like that; I go to a a bad show and resolve I am not going to put on a bad show.<p>(I am not in &quot;show biz&quot; now but I feel like I compete on some level with every kind of visual art, imaging, entertainment, web service, etc. I look a book set in Palatino and see the serif on an &quot;r&quot; practically making love to the curve of the &quot;s&quot; next to it and think why can&#x27;t I get my character spacing like that? Maybe two years out I want to do a comedy sketch with a video game character and it seems like an almost impossible mountain to climb but when I do it I want people to unambiguously think it was one of the best things they&#x27;d every seen.)
strikelaserclawalmost 4 years ago
Healthy competition will elevate you to levels you can&#x27;t go otherwise. Healthy competition isn&#x27;t about wishing others would fall down, or beating yourself up, it&#x27;s about pushing yourself so that you can achieve your personal best. There is immense satisfaction in pushing yourself to be the best you can.
DrNukealmost 4 years ago
Competitiveness may be local&#x2F;relative (against peers, a la climb the ladder) or global&#x2F;absolute (against giants, a la advance humanity). In both cases, it is usually healthy at different stages of life if it acts as a nudge instead of an obsession. Obsessive competitiveness is too much too often a high risk &#x2F; low reward game, but you only live once and then be it as you like: self-reflection and evaluation will however come, later.
smarrialmost 4 years ago
I find I&#x27;m competitive with myself rather than trying to do better than others, consistently trying to be better than I was. I think it&#x27;s partly as I have stretching goals I want to achieve in life, partly because I didn&#x27;t have much growing up, and deep down I recognise it&#x27;s probably seeking validation.
runjakealmost 4 years ago
Why do you want to change that?<p>You sound fine the way you are, and you can still be successful.<p>I find tremendous peace at being almost completely noncompetitive (except when it comes to combat sports, but even then it&#x27;s pretty friendly.)<p>Perhaps work on being more strategic when cooperating with others and learn to watch out for your self-interests better. At the same time, helping other good people will pay dividends, down the road.
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username90almost 4 years ago
Cooperation and competition are both necessary. You look at competition to see what is possible and then you cooperate to make it happen. Without competition you don&#x27;t know what to aim for. In the teams you work at likely some others handles the competitive aspects and delegates the necessary information so you don&#x27;t have to, but someone has to do it.
Graffuralmost 4 years ago
I am not too competitive now but I was when I played soccer. I guess the with soccer the rules are set in place and the arena is standard. The aim is clear and you&#x27;re there for one reason - to win.
marto1almost 4 years ago
it&#x27;s not really a conscious thing for me. But I can definitely feel it when it happens. Hope I&#x27;m not the only one.
mattmalmost 4 years ago
Being good at something is more fun
Oliver_Daemen37almost 4 years ago
I think being-competitive is something very much in the human nature tbh<p>P.S. By being competitive I am still able to stay a nice person though ;)