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Official recommends rerun in Amazon union fight

77 pointsby shivbhattalmost 4 years ago

6 comments

merricksbalmost 4 years ago
Discussed previously:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28043724" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28043724</a> (190 points&#x2F;73 comments)
sokoloffalmost 4 years ago
Amazon should give the appearance of mild opposition to the rerun, then allow it to happen, agreeing to&#x2F;under the condition of massive government and media oversight, and likely the union will fail to win a second time by at least 15 points.<p>(There’s a reason companies don’t leave me in charge of their legal strategy efforts, but I suspect it’s much better for Amazon if the rerun happens. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the union is terrified of having a rerun.)
armchairhackeralmost 4 years ago
As much as Amazon sucks, I’m under the impression that the union cannot win a vote. The employees voted against unionizing not because of illegal intimidation, but 1) they knew Amazon would cut jobs and move elsewhere if they succeeded, 2) the condition and pay in Amazon warehouses, though sub-par, is much better then any other job in their area, and 3) these are places with general anti-union sentiment.<p>If we want to improve conditions for these people, we need to give them better opportunities and education. Right now Amazon is the hand that feeds them, and even if they were to unionize they’d just be the more-regulated hand that feeds them.
meragrin_almost 4 years ago
&gt; The union specifically alleged that employees were pressured to drop ballots into a mailbox that was in view of Amazon cameras.<p>So having a United States Postal Service mailbox in an easy access location is grounds for revote? How would Amazon know how people voted? Were the ballots like postcards?
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leereevesalmost 4 years ago
If Amazon is confident that the last election was fair, they should expect another 70-30 trouncing of the union, and therefore welcome another vote.
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thrillalmost 4 years ago
And they&#x27;ll keep recommending reruns until they get the answer they want.
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