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NYT Skimmer

263 pointsby MrAlmostWrongalmost 14 years ago

41 comments

schrototoalmost 14 years ago
This is horrible. Why can't I scroll? Why do I have to use the sidebar to go through the sections? Why do I have to click the tiny arrow thing at the bottom to get to the next page?
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MatthewPhillipsalmost 14 years ago
I find these types of sites that break normal browser behavior to be offensive. Why are developers like this and OnSwipe changing native scrolling in favor of javascript scrolling? What is the benefit, aside from lag, to moving sideways? Web pages aren't magazines, and they shouldn't be. I love javascript but just because something can be done with it, doesn't mean it should be.
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vladoalmost 14 years ago
Skimmer is there since early 2009 <a href="http://www.google.bg/search?q=skimmer+nyt&#38;hl=bg&#38;client=firefox-a&#38;hs=xhf&#38;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&#38;sa=X&#38;ei=CZUuTufaM9C7hAe8wfwr&#38;ved=0CA4QpwUoBg&#38;source=lnt&#38;tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A01.01.2009%2Ccd_max%3A01.03.2009&#38;tbm=" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.bg/search?q=skimmer+nyt&#38;hl=bg&#38;clie...</a>
g123galmost 14 years ago
Would love to read Hacker news in a similar format.<p>Any suggestions on the best way to read hacker news on iPad? I tried Flipboard and Feedly but not very happy with them.
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portmanalmost 14 years ago
Not sure what "already did a redesign" means.<p>This was actually first released in 2009 [1] and then updated mid-year during 2010 [2]. I use it every day, and it has not substantially changed since last summer.<p>[1] <a href="http://firstlook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/18/article-skimmer-update-all-the-news/" rel="nofollow">http://firstlook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/18/article-skimme...</a><p>[2] <a href="http://mashable.com/2010/12/07/new-york-times-google-chrome-app/" rel="nofollow">http://mashable.com/2010/12/07/new-york-times-google-chrome-...</a>
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tezmcalmost 14 years ago
The design is ok, but I don't like the way they've broken usability, standards and everything else.<p>I had hoped people would have learned from the Gawker disaster that requiring javascript to be able to see any content at all is a bad idea. I use the NoScript plugin in firefox and all I got was a blank screen at first.
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princevermaalmost 14 years ago
I think NYT launched it as Google Chrome app.
codeodoralmost 14 years ago
I see a blank white page with 3 links in the bottom right corner that appear to do nothing, and a lone copyright symbol in the bottom left corner.<p>Using Google Chrome 12.0.742.122 on Mac OS 10.6
varjagalmost 14 years ago
I don't like that browser back button has no effect.
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hammockalmost 14 years ago
This is awesome! Finally something online that gives me an experience which is close to reading an actual physical paper. Except this is a little more convenient because everything is on one page, no awkward folding or anything.<p>I have been waiting for this a long time, how come periodicals haven't done this before? (Or have they?)
marknelalmost 14 years ago
This redesign is an interesting step forward for a site who's future you would expect to be based primarily in the tablet scene. After a few moments, I found it particularly easy to use, however I believe integration with scrolling if they're going to use left-right, then let the user drag the page etc.
obtinoalmost 14 years ago
It seems to be more suited to tablet use.
majmunalmost 14 years ago
This is more than that other guy (in other HN topic) was hoping for. it even lets him to change layout in click of a mouse as he see fit. as opposed to spending many hours on desining new layouts and templates like he did.<p>they did new things but didn't broke old things. i like that approach better
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joeybakeralmost 14 years ago
Skimmer is an experiment that simply re-packaged the content of the times. There are lots of problems with contemporary news design that skimmer didn't even try to address:<p>• The article is a fundamentally bad unit of news for the internet. <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/2011/05/28/the-article-as-luxury-or-byproduct/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzmachine.com/2011/05/28/the-article-as-luxury-...</a><p>• Customization is one thing, but being able to choose from a dozen different layouts is a sign that none of them are likely right. Good design is about what's left out, not overflowing options.<p>• The complete lack of social/comments/human interaction is distrubing
rgarciaalmost 14 years ago
For those curious about the tech behind this: <a href="http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-technology-behind-the-New-York-Times-HTML5-Chrome-app" rel="nofollow">http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-technology-behind-the-New-Y...</a>
FooBarWidgetalmost 14 years ago
It crashes my Android browser.
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damoncalialmost 14 years ago
Am I the only one who can't read this? I find it almost painful to move my eyes from one headline to the next - there is nothing for my mind to anchor to. As a result, I'm just staring blankly at the screen.
aridiculousalmost 14 years ago
I like the interaction, my problem is with layout. There's information overload and lack of hierarchy (at least on the default layout theme). The typographic hierarchy is fantastic, but the squared grid is too standardized to communicate meaning/importance. The eye wants to be guided, not given a ton of equally-sized boxes.<p>newsmap.jp understands this principle and is a much better design. If only you could combine the hierarchy of newsmap with the typography, aesthetic, and interaction of the NYT skimmer...
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nonaalmost 14 years ago
Doesn't seem to work on Epiphany 3.0.4 - but I like it in Firefox.<p>I don't mind the lack of scrolling, but it would be nice if the mousewheel event was used for page flipping.
nodataalmost 14 years ago
I find the right-scrolling thing unintuitive. Nice though.
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gary4garalmost 14 years ago
This look exactly similar to their Chrome App: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/chrome/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/chrome/</a>
famedriveralmost 14 years ago
I love experiments like this. We can all learn alot. But the most import thing to take away is that there is no one way an article or website has to be presented.<p>The articles do remind me a bit of the IHT (International Herald Tribune) from 10 years ago.<p><a href="http://www.smokinggun.com/images/pages/page_22.swf" rel="nofollow">http://www.smokinggun.com/images/pages/page_22.swf</a> (last slide)
creativityhurtsalmost 14 years ago
-1. This is not a redesign, it's their Chrome app.
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Duckpaddle2almost 14 years ago
Yea well look at this, execution is everything (choose smaller font in upper right on a 1680 by 1050 res monitor) <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/skimmer/?pagewanted=all#/Top+News//6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/who-made-that-penny/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/skimmer/?pagewanted=all#/Top+News//6t...</a>
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mojubaalmost 14 years ago
Why is it asking access to my local file system (Safari/OS X)? And if I say No the page doesn't show up at all?
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ZoFreXalmost 14 years ago
Wow, so it's just like the Gridlocked Wordpress theme but way, way slower. Awesome!<p><a href="http://themeforest.net/item/gridlocked-minimalistic-wordpress-portfolio-theme/245947/" rel="nofollow">http://themeforest.net/item/gridlocked-minimalistic-wordpres...</a>
greymanalmost 14 years ago
Moving through the sections is ok, but reading an individual article is impractical, imho. There, I prefer the old way of scrolling through the whole article by mouse wheel...much more comfortable than using keys or clicking on small arrows.
raphmanalmost 14 years ago
One more site that absolutely requires JavaScript. Disabling JS gives you a blank white page. While I understand such a decision for interactive apps like Twitter, I think quasi-static websites should at least have plain HTML fallback.
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jivejonesalmost 14 years ago
Its kind of like that Gawker redesign that everyone hated.
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drcoopsteralmost 14 years ago
That's more or less the same interface that their iPad app was (and maybe still is, I don't have an iPad anymore).
davidayalmost 14 years ago
Good job, I really like it, but I didn't understand I could use arrow keys until I came here and read comments
Vadoffalmost 14 years ago
Now, this design might actually work if they implemented click-dragging for changing pages/sections.
scriptproofalmost 14 years ago
If the mouse has a forward and back button, it is very easy to use. Great design for me.
pk2200almost 14 years ago
The most compelling feature of the skimmer is that it circumvents the paywall!
bluekite2000almost 14 years ago
Gleebox doesnt work w/ the new version...anyone has the same problem?
plnewmanalmost 14 years ago
When I opened the page, my browser threw this warning.<p><i>The website “<a href="http://www.nytimes.com”" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com”</a> is requesting 10 MB of disk space to store “Stored content for nytSkimmerSections” as a database on your disk.</i><p>I'll pass on that.<p>edits: formatting.
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iron_ballalmost 14 years ago
Makes xScope crash to desktop on my HTC Thunderbolt.
nin_appaalmost 14 years ago
It was originally made only for Chrome browsers.
kaichanvongalmost 14 years ago
Trying it on OSX with Google Chrome. Broken.<p>This makes me sad.
ninthfrank07almost 14 years ago
it's really nice with the keyboard shortcuts
ricardobeatalmost 14 years ago
Another awful iPad experience.