<i>Total Cookie Protection, built into Firefox, makes sure that facebook.com can’t use cookies to track you across websites. It does this by partitioning data storage into one cookie jar per website, rather than using one big jar for all of facebook.com’s storage. With Enhanced Cookie Clearing, if you clear site data for comfypants.com, the entire cookie jar is emptied, including any data facebook.com set while embedded in comfypants.com.</i><p>This seems exactly right: now that we have partitioned cookies, cookie clearing should clear cookies for the whole partition.
If you disallow third party cookies, then there is no use for this <i>per website cookie jar</i>. I've browsed the web like this for decades (since Opera 9, IIRC), and I had problems with at most 5 websites. YMMV, of course.<p>In my opinion, the simplest way to deal with cookies is to disallow third party, and to keep a white list of authorized websites. Cookies outside this white list should be deleted manually or automatically after a few hours. Extensions for this probably exist, but I've had bad experiences with extensions breaking or becoming intrusive, so I made my own where I hard coded the domains that I want to keep.
This would be even more better with a “Forget this site” button that could be added to the toolbar (if the user wishes to). Clicking on it would clear everything for the site and close the tab.<p>The nested menus to access it aren’t very convenient.<p>I do use CookieAutoDelete to handle this for closed tabs.
This version of Firefox is also the first major piece of software to be translated into Scots - a language spoken / understood by 1.3m people in Scotland.<p>My previous company worked on the translation and they told me they had fun trying to come up with suitable equivalents for technical words such as "minimise" and "maximise".<p><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/08/10/firefox-91-introduces-enhanced-cookie-clearing/" rel="nofollow">https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/08/10/firefox-91-intr...</a><p><a href="https://www.thenational.scot/news/19494171.major-web-browser-first-available-scots-language/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thenational.scot/news/19494171.major-web-browser...</a>
I hate how Safari on iPad does not have proper Cookie handling…
The only solution is to permanently use Safari in “private mode”, but it has some limitations (you cannot remember your browsing history, and you can’t set a default Font size for example.)<p>Firefox on iOS <i>can</i> do this, but you can’t set a Font size at all. So many websites (like Hacker News) are nearly impossible to read on an iPad.
I'm a heavy user of the "firefox containers" feature, where I try to isolate the social media sites to their own containers (twitter, facebook etc) and also one for reddit. I've also got one for google products as well as I try to use DDG most of the time.<p>Anyway I wish FF had a feature that broke down the cookies PER container, so I could purge any ones that might have snuck in due to a lapse in my judgement, e.g. if I see facebook cookies in my "twitter" container then I'd like to purge them for that particular container only.<p>FF only allows you to do a global purge.<p>EDIT: I can see this bug was raised 3 years ago which suggests it _used_ to be a feature that got removed, but sounds like it was never put back in/low priority/WONTFIX. <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1480175" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1480175</a>
Wonder if this means cookie-autodelete[1] is now redundant?<p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-autodelete/" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-autode...</a>
Nice feature, although I wish firefox could fix the other side of the cookie nightmare: auto-fill the (now humongous) forms we need to fill in for our cookie settings, for <i>each</i> website. I feel like I am applying for a mortgage a few times a day now.
> Now, if you click on Settings > Privacy and Security > Cookies and Site Data > Manage Data, Firefox no longer shows individual domains that store data. Instead, Firefox lists a cookie jar for each website you have visited.<p>How is data from previous versions of Firefox handled? Will data from ad networks be listed as a "website you have visited", made unavailable for the embedding site's cookie jar, and re-fetched upon the next visit?
And this is also the release where they drop the support for disabling "Proton" UI and therefore Firefox will no longer respect my system color scheme, and I will lose even more vertical space. Thanks...
>cookie handling that lets you fully erase your browser history for any website.<p>how about allowing me to whitelist and blacklist cookies from a button? why did that feature have to disappear in the first place? instead I now have a menu in about:preferences#privacy that requires a full URL to be entered, added with a button, then confirmed with "save" in what appears to be an effort to get me to just accept cookies.<p>whats worse is if i switch between allow cookies, and then back to custom, my selection to block all cookies isnt honored at all. instead i get put back into 'block third party cookies.'<p>finally theres the misery of including blocked sites in the 'preferences' you can delete as part of your browser history, which seems like an effort to further reduce my predictable and consistent ability to block cookies altogether.
> lets you fully erase your browser history for any website<p>I just want a button to whitelist a domain and an option to automatically clear 100% of everything outside the whitelisted domains on every restart.<p>And always clean the cache, perhaps even for whitelisted domains unless the system is on a metered/slow connection.<p>Also, every website should always be opened in a separate "container" so cross-site tracking won't work.<p>If Chrome did that today this would trigger a cascade of consequences. If Firefox did that today it would just improve Firefox popularity and cause no problems.
Great, this is really going in the right direction! So far I had been using different firefox startup profiles for different activities to emulate this behaviour (works even for extensions).
An observation from their animated demonstration: the recent history includes sites like Facebook, Google, Reddit, and Twitter yet the site they choose to forget about is Hacker News.<p>It was worth a chuckle.<p>As a heavy user of Multi-account Containers, I will be interested to see how this feature interacts with it. I use containers to maintain multiple profiles on websites and loosing all the data for those websites after clearing cookies can be frustrating.
The benefit of this also fixes bugs. Weather.com bugged on me because it uses supercookies, it would send me to the wrong link when I clicked in the search bar for my saved location. Had to manually go through and delete all the copies of the same cookies in local storage and other places they put it.<p>The next step is for Firefox to finally adopt torbrowser, and natively support not allowing fingerprinting by default.
It sure takes a lot of work from the rest of the community to reduce google and facebook's ability to keep us under constant surveillance. My personal relationship with facebook feels fully abusive at this point.
I'd love to see a toggle button on the URL bar for every website.<p>By default it's off, and it means that cookies as deleted as soon as I close the last tab for that website.<p>Clicking it whitelists the website and cookies are retained until I turn it off again.<p>This is kind of like the approach we had in the nineties. You used to get a prompt for each website, asking if you wanted to allow cookies or not. This is like a second iteration on that.
There is a simple way to do cookie clearing outside the browser. Insert the header Clear-Site-Data^1 into the HTTP response via local proxy^2:<p>1. <a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Clear-Site-Data" rel="nofollow">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Cl...</a><p>2.
http-response add-header Clear-Site-Data "*"
Great. Finally. I always wondered why some sites reopen on data relevant to a past date, (weather web site for example), even though all history, cookies, site data, etc, has been set to clear upon shut down. Which always makes you wonder what else is stored.
Can anyone tell me why since past version 68 of Firefox on Android nearly all my add-ons don't work. Is there an alternative for "I don't care about cookies" . Add-ons working on mobile in Firefox was the main reason I'm still a Firefox user. They have pretty much killed that by breaking compatibility.
Damn it Firefox. Your cookie protection system is too damn interrupting and does not provide good enough protection.<p>I don’t want a security “profile” because I don’t fit in to whatever few boxes you have setup. Or maybe I just don’t trust what you do behind that security profile setup.<p>I want my own granular cookie tracking. Steal it from chrome if you have to. It is the best thing since sliced bread.<p>I want a list of every cookie I have got. Just like IE used to do. Just chrome does today.<p>I want to set in the smallest detail which cookies are allowed, which are blocked, and which only last until I close session.<p>I have umatrix and ublock with only my personal filter list. It is not good enough. I want something much like chrome.
Typing this from Firefox, been typing from Firefox since 2002. Never moved to Chrome. That's probably a small group of people for sure, and I'm actually happy with this update, and the changes Mozilla has been making. I do think, completely against the grain of most Firefox fans, that they should've moved to Chromium ages ago. That would solve the reason people are actually leaving.. issues with Google properties. I have my mother in-law on Edge because there's less issues when she jumps on her karate class using Google Meets. There should be someone out there to battle Blink, I suppose, but without user share at all, how do you hold any weight anyway? It really doesn't make sense, the argument people make.<p>It's usershare first, then you have weight to put towards web standards. And I'm afraid Mozilla doesn't have the resources and willpower to fight that battle anyway. If I'm calling shots with Firefox I'm moving to Chromium immediately and then focusing on UI and privacy features. It's probably too late to make that change though. I just read Firefox lost 50 million monthly users in the last two years.<p>It's a little sad, there is room in the market for a 3rd party, power user's browser but it's obvious as can be that whatever browser that will be- it will be on Chromium and it won't be Firefox.