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Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

233 pointsby bussettaover 3 years ago

12 comments

lolinderover 3 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28323688" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28323688</a><p>Linking this here from the other thread, because the above comment cites the actual court documents, which clear up a lot of confusion I&#x27;m seeing on this thread. Apple&#x27;s concession only applies to communications <i>outside of the app</i> using contact information obtained <i>outside of the app</i>. (Which, yes, was somehow disallowed before.)<p>If your user signed up through the app? Tough luck.<p>This &quot;concession&quot; only removes a rule that Apple know it never could have defended in court.
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dustyharddriveover 3 years ago
This is the worst tech news headline I’ve ever seen. The change the article is referring to is allowing developers to refer to non-IAP payments in <i>communication with users outside the app</i> (the fact that this was disallowed before blows my mind). This does absolutely nothing to change the in-app anti-steering rules Apple has.<p>(edit: for clarity)
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rambambramover 3 years ago
Thanks Apple, for &quot;letting&quot; me accept payment outside the App Store. Thanks for not watching the streets and not intervening when somebody tries to pay me.<p>All jokes aside, the wording is wrong. Apple does not &quot;let me&quot;. I do. And Apple indeed doesn&#x27;t stop me.<p>In one sentence Apple not only &#x27;backs down&#x27;, but presents itself as the one who &#x27;lets you&#x27;. Well, thanks Apple. :&#x27;)
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michaelmroseover 3 years ago
There is already legislation in process that would do a hell of a lot more than this change including giving vendors the ability to sell entirely via their own store.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;08&#x2F;11&#x2F;bipartisan-bill-targets-apple-and-googles-ability-to-profit-from-app-stores.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;08&#x2F;11&#x2F;bipartisan-bill-targets-appl...</a><p>If lawmakers are already going to give you 200% of what you originally asked for why on earth would you settle for half?
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rlalwaniover 3 years ago
This is really big news. Waiting to see some more details. Apparently nothing changes if you decide to take in-app payments but you will be able to take payments outside App Store and avoid the 30% cut Apple takes.
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oenetanover 3 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ghostarchive.org&#x2F;archive&#x2F;xCvEZ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ghostarchive.org&#x2F;archive&#x2F;xCvEZ</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;lnqON" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;lnqON</a>
quyleanhover 3 years ago
If this one becomes official, can Epic back to App Store? I guess no, since it will be a precedent for other escalations.
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DarthNeboover 3 years ago
They&#x27;d have to mend a lot of rules around not having links to your own website &amp; what not as well
smoldesuover 3 years ago
This is a step in the right direction, but it&#x27;s not reform, nor is the kind of transparency that would have remedied issues like the Hey email scandal. In any case, it&#x27;s an interesting departure from the &quot;courageous&quot; Apple that unabashedly removed the headphone jack and dismissed concern over on-device scanning as &#x27;screeching&#x27;.
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oreallyover 3 years ago
I guess epic games just won?
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aero-glide2over 3 years ago
But some users told be that would be a violation of the ToS and Epic violated it so Epic should just shut up and play by the rules!
morpheos137over 3 years ago
Everything that is done with a platform dependent app can be done with a platform independent web app. I don&#x27;t know what the best way out of this is but app stores were a step back. Your phone could have one app...a web browser and maybe a few utilities like a calculator, calendar, clock. Even these could be implemented as web apps running in the browser.
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