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Show HN: A tool for your learning, like Anki and Notion in one

268 pointsby SunghoYahngover 3 years ago

30 comments

anigbrowlover 3 years ago
I went from &#x27;well it&#x27;s OK&#x27; to &#x27;I quite like this&#x27; to &#x27;it&#x27;s great!&#x27; in about 10 minutes.<p>Creating a new web account loads the tutorial page, but it&#x27;s a little confusing at first how to add a node. Also, there are quite a few spelling and grammar errors on that page which will make an unfair negative impression. If you clean those up you will get more conversions.<p>Examples:<p><pre><code> It&#x27;s my job to keep your complicated brain neat and tidy and remember **things** for a long time! Here&#x27;s how you can **create** a neat Note Garden. 2. Structure what you have learned and put **it** in order. I even take care of your knowledge so that you won&#x27;t forget **it** for the rest of your life! (The road to being a great gardener** was **not easy, but we did it!) </code></pre> Note also in the last example how the bold markdown surrounds the whitespace. I highlighted this manually (and carelessly) but clicking on a word also selects trailing spaces. You should probably strip the whitespace.<p>On the landing page &#x27;Write Smartly&#x27; <i>is</i> correct English, but people rarely use the word this way - although it is technically correct it feels weird, and you don&#x27;t want to create that feeling on a landing page. &#x27;Write Smart&#x27; would be better.<p>Also, you wrote &#x27;Law students - People who study for a long time that should not be forgotten&#x27;. I suggest &#x27;Law students - People who need to study and retain knowledge for a long time.&#x27;<p>These are small language errors, but they would be very quickly noticed by your target audience.<p>Finally, the desktop sign-in with Google seems not to work - it opens a blank window and then closes again. Maybe it is just from server load right now.<p>Anyway I like it a lot and will consider using it regularly. I am more of a pencil-and-paper note person but this is one of the nicest digital notebooks I&#x27;ve found.
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usrmeover 3 years ago
To those interested in a more modern-looking Anki (minus the Notion as in the OP): I do suggest having a look at Mochi (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mochi.cards&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mochi.cards&#x2F;</a>). As someone new to spaced repetition (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ncase.me&#x2F;remember&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ncase.me&#x2F;remember&#x2F;</a>) it&#x27;s been absolutely amazing and I can&#x27;t praise their support highly enough for being so responsive! It&#x27;s one of the better subscriptions I&#x27;ve opted for.
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SunghoYahngover 3 years ago
Hey Hackers,<p>The main concepts of this app are<p>1. Take notes in a tree structure.<p>2. Test immediately without wasting time and effort to create flashcards separately.<p>3. Review with the optimal learning cycle calculated by the SR algorithm.<p>This is probably the question you are most curious about. “What is the difference with other competitors?”<p>The long and nerdy answer: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learnobit.postach.io&#x2F;post&#x2F;to-everyone-who-showed-a-passionate-interest-in-note-garden" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learnobit.postach.io&#x2F;post&#x2F;to-everyone-who-showed-a-p...</a>
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tifadg1over 3 years ago
I hate to be a downer, but I found the following using anki - so basically anything with SM2 algorithm, no matter the UI - as a learning tool for my tech notes:<p>1) it doesn&#x27;t scale. You&#x27;ll be overwhelmed with repetitions once you&#x27;re in the high hundreds, and you will be if using Q&#x2F;A style questions. And what&#x27;s your daily strategy once it hits thousands?<p>2) I&#x27;ve converted all my notes from libreoffice writer to anki using python and various formatting tricks, and while the import outcome was perfect, most of the notes are useless - too ambigious&#x2F;too broad&#x2F;WIP - you&#x27;ll never remember those well.<p>3) premade cards are mostly useless for long term - say you want to remember linux stuffs - you can find cards with thousands of items, but to what point - there&#x27;s only so much time in a day and you want to learn something different than the author did - you def won&#x27;t spend a year reviewing them.<p>I myself am confident this problem can be solved with supermemo and creating tailored q&#x2F;a from my notes and thinking hard what I actually want to remember long term.
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chriskananover 3 years ago
Have you thought about a strategy for when someone starts having many cards to review? I used Anki daily throughout my PhD to never forget a ton of machine learning and math. I used it for about 7 years daily (PhD + postdoc + 1.5 years) and I had around 20,000 cards. I just had to review them every day and I basically seemed like a fountain of knowledge.<p>But a year into my professorship, I just didn&#x27;t have time to do all of them daily and this compounded to disencentivize me as the number of cards to review piled up into the thousands. I still have Anki installed but I haven&#x27;t used it much since 2016.<p>One of the best things about Anki is it is free. I wouldn&#x27;t want to subscribe with a recurring payments, and I like having a non-web app to ensure I could use it indefinitely even if the product dies.
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eminemenceover 3 years ago
I downloaded it and installed it, but could not try as it requires a signup with email!<p>1. The feature set on paper is impressive, but there should be a way of trying out the limited features in offline mode, without requiring a mandatory sign-up. So consider adding a demo mode both in the downloaded and web version.<p>2. Is there a way to host data locally?<p>3. The Privacy policy &amp; Terms of service take forever to load. The loading times need some serious tweaking.
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auslegungover 3 years ago
Nitpick: I think &quot;Study different&quot; should be &quot;Study differently&quot;.<p>Here&#x27;s why in case you care. Different is an adjective, which describes a noun. Differently is an adverb, which describes a verb. The sentence &quot;study different&quot; has an implicit subject &quot;you&quot;, so it could be written &quot;you study different&quot;. This makes it more obvious that &quot;different&quot; is trying to describe the verb &quot;study&quot;, not the noun &quot;you&quot;.
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Buttons840over 3 years ago
I hate creating notes on the computer. I wish e-ink devices would implement some good spaced repetition to their hand written notes apps. When I do use the computer for notes it&#x27;s hard to beat Anki or org-drill.
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masteranzaover 3 years ago
If you’d prefer to keep your learning notes in computable notebook like Mathematica then you may try my little side project: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;masteranza&#x2F;ScienceNotebooks" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;masteranza&#x2F;ScienceNotebooks</a>
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u40as7over 3 years ago
Interesting project! Wondering if it’s open source ?<p>Also I’d be interested to know a little more about the translation from notes to testing. To me it seems when I’ve used Anki that it takes great care and time to make a well formed question. A poorly formed question has a massive detriment in knowledge recall. Just wondering how you’ve managed to bridge that dilemma to automate the process.<p>Very interested in contributing, I’m a programmer, clinical educator and love spaced repetition.
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TeMPOraLover 3 years ago
Off-topic:<p>I was wondering how the author managed to get the &quot;web.app&quot; domain, but it turns out it&#x27;s owned by Google (Firebase). Because of course it is.
SecurityLagoonover 3 years ago
Gave this a shot in guest mode.<p>It sounds promising in theory and I agree that linking the Q&#x2F;A cards to more detailed notes and tree structure is useful but in implementation it felt very clunky and I did not gel with the UI at all. The most immediate issue was that identifying how to actually markdown the notes into a usable question and answer format wasn&#x27;t clear from the brief description in the intro document. The tool REALLY needs a tutorial. After I worked that out though the &quot;learn&quot; tab just felt like any other SR flashcard app and it didn&#x27;t present the notes in any useful way to make it better than a well curated Anki deck.<p>I&#x27;ve never really tried anything except Anki, Memrise and now this app but it&#x27;s just hard to recommend this over Anki, as a widely accepted and open source standard. I found this frustrating to use.
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harperleeover 3 years ago
Does someone have a way to use any of these apps solely with voice, so I can use it while driving? I’ve looked into anki plugins but did not find anything complete (that is, you can reply with voice), and I can’t be the first to desire this…
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mrockover 3 years ago
This looks great. It seems like there are issues with sign up. There is no sign-up link on the home page. I found it via guest mode --&gt; sign up. After clicking sign up,... there is no form. I&#x27;m using firefox.<p>HTH!
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Reflecticonover 3 years ago
Will it stay for free like anki or will you move over to a paid plan?<p>I love anki because it&#x27;s free and every time I&#x27;ve used a new software, which was better, to learn new things, I had to pay eventually.
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rayraegahover 3 years ago
“Click +Add a New File button to create a new file”<p>There is no Add a New File button. I only see the Let’s start page. There’s no way to create a new file and no menu other than the sidebar.<p>The only way to create a page is by not following the instructions and through some jiggery-pokery with the mouse on the help page.<p>Am I missing something or just the application malfunctioning?
spidersourisover 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve yet to try it, but this looks incredibly impressive compared to the other spaced repetition apps on the market, especially UI and features-wise. I also find it a great idea to merge notes and spaced repetition, a la RemNote.<p>Out of curiosity, what spaced repetition algorithm is the app using? Did you create your own or did you use a pre-existing one?
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sjosundover 3 years ago
Minor, but annoying thing: On Mac the Option-key is hi-jacked so that it&#x27;s not possible to jump one word when editing text. Instead, one gets sent to the previous page. This breaks the normal flow of editing and slows it down unnecessary.
lijogdfljkover 3 years ago
This is cool! Anki + Notion is exactly a thing i&#x27;m in the early stages of working on! Any plans for an extensive plugin system? A big thing i desired was the ability to build Notion-like blocks&#x2F;etc as userland plugins. I really enjoyed how some apps (Obsidian&#x2F;etc) had great plugin support.
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throwaway98981over 3 years ago
&quot;Click the &#x27;+Add a New File&#x27; button to create a new file.&quot;<p>Call me stupid, but I can&#x27;t find the &#x27;+Add a New File&#x27; button. Where is it? If I click &quot;Files&quot; on the sidebar, I only see a &#x27;Let&#x27;s Start!&#x27; card. I signed up as a guest.
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rodolphoarrudaover 3 years ago
I&#x27;m still dreaming with a service which would allow me to build short online courses with a Google Primer look&amp;feel; the course catalog and the course itself. I believe that for some specific types of audiences, that learning experience is unbeatable.
qq99over 3 years ago
I was really confused for a little while, because everything was in Korean. It seems that if you enable JS for `notegarden.web.app`, then the content in English.<p>Maybe consider looking at the Accept-Language header for a default in this case
ppsover 3 years ago
I can&#x27;t use letters from Polish alphabet: ó, ą, ę, etc. Doesn&#x27;t look like for example option&#x2F;alt+o doing something, but I can&#x27;t type &quot;ó&quot; anyway. Chrome on MacOS
douglaswlanceover 3 years ago
Could it work with a [[Roam Style]] linked markdown repository?
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mf_kevintruongover 3 years ago
Great to see a lot of people jump into the field There are alot of note app over three, but not much app to help people on learn&#x2F;maintain knowledge.
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siva7over 3 years ago
I have no idea what your app does besides flashcards because your landing page doesn&#x27;t give much information
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mronetwoover 3 years ago
Is there a way to export and import the cards&#x2F;notes with a reasonable format? (markdown or such)
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ultra_nickover 3 years ago
How does it structure the flash cards into a knowledge tree? Is it like Roam plus Anki?
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raidicyover 3 years ago
I dislike subs. Any plans for one-time-purchase with offline support?
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wodenokotoover 3 years ago
The interface looks really polished and professional.
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