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Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly

1070 pointsby hyfergover 3 years ago

97 comments

hyfergover 3 years ago
Hello, I’m Cameron and one of the two people working on the Bonsai web browser.<p>We’re focused on making a web browser for programmers to improve their workflow. It helps you look up docs and search information. You can toggle it on with a hotkey and it can overlay on your IDE. Tabs are grouped by domain for easy organization. The history data structure is a tree which shows how pages are back-linked to each other and to spatial workspaces. Both open tabs and pages in your workspaces are just pointers to a node in your history tree!<p>You can watch a 2 minute video walkthrough here <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.loom.com&#x2F;share&#x2F;93c7c0012f514c37b58a42fa65badc88" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.loom.com&#x2F;share&#x2F;93c7c0012f514c37b58a42fa65badc88</a> or download it from our website<p>How did we end up here?<p>Initially we wanted to make a citation manager because myself and a friend had an unconnected workflow moving research articles from Chrome -&gt; Zotero -&gt; Emacs org-mode. After talking to some other PhDs&#x2F;postdocs the takeaway was that everyone has very different ways of doing research. This would mean that it would be impossible to make a citation manager that everyone would want to use.<p>Later, a friend in industry mentioned that he had a hard time finding ‘cloud documents’ as part of his job. We then considered making a spotlight application to find and organize these documents. It turns out that this already been done and it seems that people actually just pull up their documents once at the beginning of the day anyway.<p>We now think that the main problem is that web browsers are actually not currently suited for doing research. The current mixing of research type browsing with web-documents creates a mess and makes people think they want a ‘cloud file search’.<p>What’s different?<p>Instead of an add-on solution to Chrome which would create more noise, we are creating a fully functioning, organized way of managing information overload and keeping you on task as you go through your work day.<p>What’s next?<p>We are fixing up our Linux and Windows versions for public use.
anigbrowlover 3 years ago
Love it, this is the most innovative thing in the browser space for a long while. It&#x27;s baffling to me how <i>boring</i> most &#x27;new&#x27; browsers are - most propositions are &#x27;like X but with less friction on these 2 or 3 things&#x27;.<p>I hate that it&#x27;s only for Mac so far, but glad to see others are on the way. I&#x27;ve been thinking about picking up a cheap older mac for development work, though, and this is one more reason in favor.
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betageekover 3 years ago
This looks really great, something I could use and would pay for when polished but there&#x27;s definitely a few issues for me at the moment:<p>* Why go fullscreen and modal? I want to drag in links from docs, email, other browsers, have it side by side while reading PDFs etc. etc. this stops me from doing any of that<p>* Please let me change the shortcut! I already have Option-Space bound.<p>* Let me put the browser window anywhere I want when it&#x27;s in the single page non-fullscreen mode, don&#x27;t levitate it to where you think I want it<p>* Unless I&#x27;m missing something the process of opening a page then adding it to a workspace seems to be three clicks - open page, hit + (plus) button, select workspace, select workspace&#x2F;inbox - need to make this one click, maybe just show the inboxes? This also seems clunky, I&#x27;d much rather browse, drag that page to the workspace&#x2F;inbox, continue browsing and adding further pages, then arrange all the pages in the workspace after i&#x27;ve added all the links. Seems a faster workflow.
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tailspin2019over 3 years ago
This looks great.<p>I was sceptical from the article title, but was immediately sold on the idea when I saw it in action.<p>A good sign to me is that you have solved problems I didn’t realise I had. I like the floating window concept - can definitely see how that would be useful for having documentation front and centre while working on something. The spatial organisation thing is very nice too.<p>Looks like it’s early days still for the project but I think you’re onto something. Good luck with it!
leobgover 3 years ago
Downloaded it, installed it, and loving it!<p>The big thing I&#x27;m missing most is LastPass. Without access to my passwords, I can see myself falling back to Chrome. In fact, I need to keep Chrome running so I can look up my login names and passwords there in order to copy them over to Bonsai when I&#x27;m being asked to log in. If you could support popular password managers inside your browser, that would help a lot!
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infogulchover 3 years ago
Love the opened-from tracking for tabs and spatial organization, which reminds me of the Promnesia extension [0] that helps you track when you&#x27;ve been to a page in the past and where you came from.<p>I think there&#x27;s a huge untapped potential value for users in historical browsing activity that is just wasted by browsers today (well when they&#x27;re not busy siphoning it off to advertisers). The standard browser history data and ui is so crap at mapping to your intuition about how to find some tab you had open recently that it&#x27;s basically useless. It was modeled when the primary navigation in a browser was one window with no tabs and you clicked from site to site <i>literally linearly</i>, and this design has <i>never been updated since</i>. Now I have 2-4 windows, with dozens of tabs each, on 4 computing devices, where windows have been open for times ranging from 2 minutes to 2 months, where on each each tab I may switch to it or move it or close it or open new tabs from it at any time. And all that activity is reduced to a single linear &#x27;history&#x27; where the order in which items appear is nonsensical no matter what sort order you use. Real browsing activity is no longer linear, modeling it as linear is hostile to the user.<p>Knowing that you&#x27;ve seen something before but you can&#x27;t figure out when or how you got there because it&#x27;s pointless to trawl through thousands of completely unrelated links in history is despair.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;karlicoss&#x2F;promnesia" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;karlicoss&#x2F;promnesia</a>
eurasiantigerover 3 years ago
What I really want is a browser that displays information in a clear, unified format that I can customize to my liking.<p>I want this browser to disregard all visual HTML and CSS rendering, and rather instrument a headless browser to gather the navigation and content from sites.<p>I want to be able to easily make my own instrumentation for sites that do not yet work on this browser.<p>I’m want to allow some branding in the form of one theme color, used for one top navigation bar background, and a site logo there. That’s it. Nothing else. But maybe make this easily customizable with the rest of the interface.<p>In effect, a ”reader mode” but for the entire browsing experience, not just the main content.
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diskzeroover 3 years ago
This is interesting and fun to use. I am not sure it would become part of my daily work flow because it is another browser and I am fairly attached to my current browser workflow.<p>Is it out of the question for a lot of these feature to exist as a plugin to an existing browser? Bonsai could then be integrated to use my search engines prefs, my ad blockers, etc.<p>Keep up the good work! It is great to see people pushing UI concepts.
JasonFruitover 3 years ago
Some of these features would be great built into a window manager. I&#x27;d love to be able to handle open windows the way you handle open pages.
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AnonCover 3 years ago
I don’t know why I’m unable to see a reply link to reply to the OP’s comment here. I visited the website and was excited to see the organization screenshots. However, I didn’t see anything else on the website and I have a bunch of questions.<p>Is this closed source or open source? Which browser engine and framework is this based on? Can I (or will I be able to in the future) install WebExtensions line in the popular browsers? Is it (or will it be) a paid product? Will it be a paid subscription? Will it start showing ads? What information does the browser collect and send back for telemetry or any other tracking purposes (I couldn’t find a privacy policy)?<p>If there are pages on the website with answers to these questions and more, please share those. If not, please document these on the website.
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luxurytentover 3 years ago
I’d love for a web browser to have first-class integration with a universal personal search system like Monocle [0]. I find if I want to learn something new I am searching externally, but if I am attempting to recall something, being able to search through all my indexed notes in the same interface I’m building, researching, and planning in has potential.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;thesephist&#x2F;monocle" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;thesephist&#x2F;monocle</a>
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ryan-duveover 3 years ago
Some of these features look awesome and I can see how much thought went into them. The hotkey toggle looks like a viable alternative to splitting the screen with a console and pop out mode seems similar to how Firefox allows videos to be overlaid on other pages. I&#x27;ll be honest, I don&#x27;t really see the utility of some features like workspaces or the tree history, but then again I initially rolled my eyes at Gmail&#x27;s pop out compose and clearly they knew what I wanted better than I did!<p>I have a few questions:<p>1. Did you code the engine from scratch, or is it based on Chromium or Gecko or something?<p>2. What&#x27;s your sustainability, e.g., monetization, plan for the browser?<p>3. Do you have any estimate on how long until I can `apt install bonsai-browser` from an official distro repository?
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BMFXXover 3 years ago
I actually really love that there&#x27;s more people focusing on this problem. Its one a friend of mine also tried to address, with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;enterflow.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;enterflow.app&#x2F;</a><p>As someone with extreme ADHD, this has made my life so much easier and reduced my tab clutter.<p>I love how this is so hot-key rich, I think like everyone else has kind of mentioned I wish we had chrome extensions, last pass, editthiscookie etc. It&#x27;s the pro vs con of going extension vs full blown browser.<p>One of the other hurdles I&#x27;ve encountered is restricted installs by internal companies due to &quot;security&quot; reasons.<p>I am gonna be giving this a go for the next few days and see how I adapt to it.<p>Seriously love the fact this is becoming a focus for people.
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yewenjieover 3 years ago
Thinking about how to achieve some of these features in Firefox<p>1. An extension like Tree Style Tabs, but in a dedicated tab, which is pinned to the first tab, so easily accessible with `Alt+1`.<p>2. A keyboard shortcut for detaching the tab (via something like Tridactyl) and then resizing it using a tiling window manager.<p>2 is easy to achieve, if 1 does not yet exist in some form I might build it someday.
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rcshubhadeepover 3 years ago
Would love to try this, but I am using Ubuntu :( Do you think a Linux version will be out sometimes soon?
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awonghover 3 years ago
Very cool demo!<p>Years ago I built a chrome extension tab manager that had some of the same features- fuzzy search, spatial grouping, tree history. I built it for my own use because I usually have too many tabs open and need some kind of principle of organizing the tabs I have open. I couldn’t get far enough on the browser extension for it to work well for me, so I just gave up on organizing my browser. Now I’m just scared to ever close all my tabs for fear of losing some train of thought.
wanderingmindover 3 years ago
I&#x27;m sorry but couldn&#x27;t find the information. Is this built on top of chrome(chromium)? Do you have plans to release it as open-source given the market you are targeting is a small one and (rightfully) a paranoid one.
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_bohmover 3 years ago
Looks really cool and I&#x27;d love to give it a shot! Is this intended to be open source? It looks like the associated repo [0] only has a README and some releases with the Mac installers in the assets.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;hyferg&#x2F;bonsai-browser-public" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;hyferg&#x2F;bonsai-browser-public</a>
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constantine_cover 3 years ago
The whole concept of this browser is really great. It would solve a lot of my problems regarding where to properly store topics I&#x27;m doing research on (since I&#x27;m a student and knowledge junkie I tend to just dig for 10-15 resources and never get to reading them)<p>My main question is what&#x27;s your businesses model? You monetization plan?
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howmayiannoyyouover 3 years ago
Okay, this is fantastic and not just for programming. I&#x27;d like to see this be actively developed and enhanced. Might even pay for something like this.
xpeover 3 years ago
&gt; ... that helps programmers think clearly<p>This marketing pitch does not ring true to me.<p>I think the founders can do better. The bar, in my view, would be a phrase that embodies the product without stretching credibility. In other words, the current phrase sets expectations too high relative to the product.
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leepowersover 3 years ago
Love the concept. My only blocker for adoption is being able to import bookmarks from Firefox into Bonsai.<p>Feedback and ideas:<p>1) On macOS Catalina - can&#x27;t Cmd+Tab out of full-screen.<p>2) Bookmarks import.<p>3) Search somewhere other than Google. Would love to be able to define a set of URLs to hit, instead of being limited to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=</a>...<p>4) Search within pages. In addition to search engines. So if I export my bookmarks to an HTML file, I could search that file. Or if I could search within local documentation that&#x27;s not online.<p>5) Collab workspaces. A team could share a workspace that defines the same search engines and documents.<p>6) Window size other than fullscreen.
hemloc_ioover 3 years ago
Lots of great stuff in here! Tried it out for a spin and it&#x27;s very snappy, and I love all the mgmt features!<p>Two quick things:<p>1. I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s gesture support for the mac touchpad or a ton of keybindings. Adding those would be great b&#x2F;c I try to avoid the mouse :) and it&#x27;s easier on Chrome for the moment.<p>2. Do you guys have some kind of social presence we can follow to track your progress ? Could def see myself buying this in the future. EDIT: Checked out your site again and saw your discord.
ejarzoover 3 years ago
Really cool idea, looking forward to trying it out! My only complaint is that the default hotkey is the same as Alfred -- Is there any way to customize it?
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Version467over 3 years ago
Love the concept. Haven&#x27;t tried it yet, but it looks awesome. If it&#x27;s as good as it seems to be I would pay for it.<p>A must however is support for password managers (bitwarden in my case).<p>I also very much like that you made a complete browser instead of a chrome plugin. It allows you to rethink navigation and organization in a much less restricted way and I think it shows.
staticassertionover 3 years ago
Very compelling demo. I like how this is basically a tool for grouping, labeling, and connecting webpages - it feels like it gets at the heart of &#x27;the web&#x27;, (or at least the part a lot of us interact with forums), a big connected graph that we have to manage in this disconnected tabular manner due to browser UX.<p>Curious to see more in the future.
gossamerover 3 years ago
It looks like a nice idea. Definitely add a feature to change the shortcut. I want it to behave more like a regular window. The full screen version can&#x27;t be un-maximized. The Groups in the workspace can only be expanded horizontally. I want to be able to pick a color for the box too.<p>I think this will be great once you have added some more features.
DavideNLover 3 years ago
Those seem like awesome features! Hopefully it will be implemented in a non-Chrome browser one day, like Firefox&#x2F;Gecko…
boogiesover 3 years ago
Lynx¹ and NetSurf both display history in a tree, good to see browsers with &quot;modern&quot; engines catching up! (I think Firefox&#x27;s Tree Style Tab extension was the closest alternative available before this)<p>¹requires configuration (under &quot;Special Files and Screens&quot;, set &quot;Visited Pages&quot; to &quot;As Visit Tree&quot;)
BiteCode_devover 3 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure I see the point. Firefox can do that with tab groups (E.G: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;fr&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;panorama-tab-groups&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;fr&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;panorama-tab-gro...</a>), and your OS can put it in the foreground with the shortcut you like.<p>Why an entirely new browser?<p>If you want something more polish, a firefox add on or some OS service would be less work and benefit from the ecosystem.<p>Or is it a case of FTP vs Dropbox and I&#x27;m nerding out?
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spa3thybover 3 years ago
Just a suggestion - I tried to look this up in HN search (there is an unrelated YC company, Bonsai, that I thought this was connected to) and didn&#x27;t get a hit as the title doesn&#x27;t include the name of the project - so please consider including it next time. I <i>love</i> the direction you&#x27;re going here!
doctorhandshakeover 3 years ago
Some simple constructive criticism: I think you should find a more pleasing and modern color palette. The green and orange you’re using are, to my eye, quite ugly and distracting. A better color system will go a long way aesthetically and will make the site and UI feel more inviting. [edit: typo]
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slightwinderover 3 years ago
This looks like one of the many grouping-addons that firefox has, just a better look. It doesn&#x27;t seem to say anything at all about the actual features besides those three animations? Or is my adblocker just removing something important?<p>Anyway, as someone who has used all kind of flavors of grouping in firefox (and still is using it with tree style tabs now), I can say that grouping is nice, but on the long run not nice enough. It helps to organize your mess, but the lack of effortless integration into something outside your browser is a real problem for serious work.<p>Maybe MacOS can offer some ways there, I remember in the past they had good options via applescript.
yawnxyzover 3 years ago
I love that workflow-oriented browser ideas are popping up. Funny enough I just ran into Sigma OS browser earlier today, but haven&#x27;t tried it yet: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sigmaos.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sigmaos.com&#x2F;</a>
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pieixover 3 years ago
This is fantastic. Seconding the comment that this isn&#x27;t only for developers—optimizing all user experiences for ease of use has become an antipattern and what&#x27;s needed is UX that optimizes for preserving the user&#x27;s brainspace.
curioussavageover 3 years ago
I really like the tab view by domain. Seems like it could be handy to even display pages on the domain from history in those columns, sorted by most recently visited. Maybe also grayed out a little or under a &quot;history&quot; section
seph-reedover 3 years ago
Really, really like it. My one thought so far:<p>- it would be nice to not have to use Google for search.
ameliusover 3 years ago
Curious if you considered to write a window-manager instead, because that would allow programmers to use other applications besides webbrowsers. E.g. you could put a Mathematica window in a pane, while coding in another pane.
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iheartlifeover 3 years ago
Just gave this a try, looking forward to trying it out more over the coming weeks, really refreshing to see a new take on what a browser is and how it should look like.<p>The only thing that I found missing was the lack of gesture support.
ericdover 3 years ago
Something I’ve wanted for a while in my other browsers, I’d love a “no distraction” mode that ran a simple topic classifier on the last few pages I’ve been looking at, and then greyed out links to pages that were obviously nowhere near that topic. Thinking specifically of the “links from across stack exchange list on the right sidebar of SO” that often draw me into reading about eg DND, Wikipedia rabbitholes, or any page component that tries to get you to lose your train of thought and get lost on that site.<p>Also, the ability to grey out links to domains I’ve decided I never want to visit.
_zachsover 3 years ago
This looks awesome! Any way to subscribe for when a Linux version is available?
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reflexeover 3 years ago
Yea, let me just install this big binary blob and trust a random folk on the internet it will never contain any &quot;ad sdk&quot; that will collect my ssh key and gcloud token.<p>Cool idea, however.
dmjeover 3 years ago
It&#x27;s really nice, and a great idea but the lack of basic thought on look and feel really puts me off.<p>I know probably some feel this is trivial and not as important somehow as the idea &#x2F; execution but to me it&#x27;s critical that something is beautiful as well as functional. In this particular instance, it isn&#x27;t even anything terribly hard - just pushing some spacing around, font sizes, making sure there are consistencies between UI elements, etc.<p>Sorry to be That Guy.
ziroshimaover 3 years ago
Pretty cool. Looks somewhat similar to Dash (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kapeli.com&#x2F;dash" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kapeli.com&#x2F;dash</a>)
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yellowappleover 3 years ago
Seems similar to my usual workflow with Firefox&#x27;s Tree Style Tabs extension: using a parent tab (usually pinned) as a kind of stand-in for a category, then putting child tabs into those category branches.<p>Obviously Bonsai seems to do this a lot slicker. If it was FOSS and available outside of macOS I&#x27;d definitely consider trying this out.
MacroChipover 3 years ago
If you want a chrome extension that turns your history into a tree I made it: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;histree&#x2F;linpklflmolmnhckgoojppnfhajngaoh?hl=en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;histree&#x2F;linpklflmo...</a>
V-2over 3 years ago
I appreciate the concept, but IMHO when software is only available for Mac, this should be highlighted in the title.
rank0over 3 years ago
I’m impressed. I could see using this browser in addition to keeping FF as my main daily driver.<p>I would use it specifically for programming or my security engineering work. Do y’all envision the product being used to fill this specific research niche? Or do you intend to create a browser to replace chrome&#x2F;ff&#x2F;safari?
dimalover 3 years ago
Looks very cool! Is there a way to change the hotkey? I have option-space deeply encoded in my brain to bring up Alfred, so I&#x27;d rather not change that. And is there any way to navigate between open pages with the keyboard? Seems like all the navigation is very mouse-centric.
tmd83over 3 years ago
What about resource usage? Are the tabs always loaded or just reference and loaded only when clicked?
sam0x17over 3 years ago
And yet another great idea that only works on a Mac. Would love to see this on Linux + Windows!!
bananabreakfastover 3 years ago
Love this idea! Trying it out now.<p>FYI the window title bar text is still set to &quot;Hello Electron React&quot;
daxuakover 3 years ago
Kind of a vague question: what&#x27;s been the experience with the Bosai browser for you, or the people you have surveyed, in terms of researching stuff?<p>Love the concept and from the demo it looks well executed, defintely will try when I hop on a mac.
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drekipusover 3 years ago
The spacial organisation and fuzzy finder looks great.<p>the whole reason I use linux and gnome is because it&#x27;s easy to pin window on top for this exact reason, (plus some other tweaks). You&#x27;ve captured how I ( and perhaps many) do work really well.<p>Well done.
beebeepkaover 3 years ago
I am sure many others have thought about doing something like this, including me, but you guys have done it.<p>Looks awesome and has huge potential. Hurry up with the Linux build.<p>It&#x27;s about time for a browser akin to, you know, a desktop. What an inspiring project
yobleover 3 years ago
Looks neat. One suggestion: add a simple newsletter signup form to notify people when other platforms are supported (and whatever else you want).<p>I&#x27;d love to follow the project and try it on linux when that comes.
deviationover 3 years ago
As a consultant using a client macbook that is heavily neutered by its security and safety protocols... I&#x27;m wishing that I were able to install this. Excited to try it in the future.
wizzledonkerover 3 years ago
I love the idea of a web browser that integrates <i>more</i> cleanly with the operating system. I use Linux, and can definitely can see this working very well on my DE of choice (gnome)
w_t_payneover 3 years ago
This is one of those ideas that causes you to kick yourself for not thinking of it earlier. Simple, and with the power to be transformative. Well done and good luck!
Mikhail_Edoshinover 3 years ago
One of trends in modern UI is that it thoroughly removes control from the user, especially direct control, so it&#x27;s refreshing to see an example to the contrary.
anaphorover 3 years ago
I&#x27;m guessing this is done with WebKit so I wonder how hard it would be to port to Linux&#x2F;Windows. Also it would be neat to have vim-like keyboard shortcuts.
sritchieover 3 years ago
I was thrilled to see that SICMUtils, FDG and friends are there as one of the examples! This looks awesome, and thanks for taking a look at those projects :)
reddit_cloneover 3 years ago
Looks interesting.<p>How does this handle multiple desktops in Mac OS X?
somenewaccount1over 3 years ago
the hotkey conflicts with Alfred and I wish it was modifiable because Alfred is dear to me and I do not want to change it&#x27;s hotkey.
vymagueover 3 years ago
Looks cool, all browsers look samey these days. The big firefox update some time ago basically turned it into chrome. Appearance-wise.
atarianover 3 years ago
Have you had any problems logging into Google? IIRC Google blocks logins from using embedded browser frameworks like Electron and CEF.
Joe_Boogzover 3 years ago
Looks cool, waiting to try the windows release :)
tristorover 3 years ago
This is incredible. It takes the best parts about Spotlight&#x2F;Alfred on MacOS and applies it in-context to the web. Great job!
nomorepleaseover 3 years ago
These feature look amazing. Ah I clicked, I didn’t expect it to be compelling but I’m intrigued enough to try it out. Great work!
Ataraxyover 3 years ago
The spatial organization is slick.<p>Give this thing a slick UX pass and it&#x27;ll be a pretty nice tool I could actually see myself using.<p>Also dark mode is a must.
SCUSKUover 3 years ago
Can I change the default browser to DuckDuckGo?
neoromantiqueover 3 years ago
&gt;We are fixing up our Linux and Windows versions for public use.<p>Very glad to be reading that, would be glad to help with testing, as well.
fleaaaaover 3 years ago
I haven&#x27;t used it but demo already got me so excited. This is the reason I check HN on a daily basis. Great work!!
maCDzPover 3 years ago
This is so cool. Kanban for my tabs. I didn&#x27;t even know it was a thing until you showed it. Thank you!
lockycover 3 years ago
This is awesome, good work! This is exactly what i was hoping to be able to use Dash from kapeli for.
tendencydrivenover 3 years ago
I&#x27;m happy to beta test a Linux version if you have anything in the works, this looks fantastic.
niceworkbuddyover 3 years ago
Wow! This is something new. Keep going with that, I keep my fingers crossed for you! :)
zenjesterover 3 years ago
macs have 8% of the market why oh why does HN feature so many mac only products?
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tjhillover 3 years ago
Awesome! Would be cool if I could use arrow keys to navigate tabs&#x2F;history
yaseerover 3 years ago
I love the idea of domain specific browsers.<p>Congrats on shipping, will be monitoring this one!
thewileyoneover 3 years ago
Look very interesting. I&#x27;m looking forward to trying this in Windows.
Socketier88over 3 years ago
Great job, really looking forward to trying this out when I get to my mac.
lamekover 3 years ago
The walkthrough video is under 2min and has everything you need. Awesome.
danShumwayover 3 years ago
These kinds of niche browsers come up so often, and I love the idea, but I&#x27;m constantly thrown off by both the lack of extension support and the lack of other privacy guarantees that come through Firefox. I can&#x27;t, for example, turn off webGL on this browser, or use Firefox&#x27;s anti-fingerprinting features. And of course uBlock.<p>What I&#x27;m starting to realize is that the answer to this probably isn&#x27;t just to try and add extension support to Electron or to get every project to reimplement webExtensions. Reimplementations are likely to have errors anyway. I&#x27;m slowly starting to realize that this is <i>likely</i> the wrong way to solve the extension problem.<p>Instead what I think is needed here is some kind of shared base for handling network connections, extensions, privacy, and adblocking. Honestly, it doesn&#x27;t necessarily even need to be a graphical browser, these projects don&#x27;t have a problem rendering content or embedding a V8 engine. What they need is some kind shared, trusted utility that they can all use to hook into that would almost act like a MITM between the page and them.<p>I look at stuff like Servo&#x2F;Stylo, and that&#x27;s obviously exciting, but the hard part here doesn&#x27;t seem to be rendering CSS&#x2F;HTML, laying out pages, and executing Javascript. The hard part is switching browsers without feeling like you&#x27;re giving up a lot of security&#x2F;privacy work in the process, and maybe there&#x27;s some way for a shared framework to do that without worrying about the rendering part at all? I would love to try out a browser like Bonsai while keeping most of my existing Firefox settings in regards to privacy, site isolation, adblocking, etc... Whether that would be some kind of proxy that sat between browsers and the Internet, or whether it was something that browsers could be built on? I don&#x27;t know, I&#x27;m sure there are complications I haven&#x27;t thought of.<p>Am I off base with this? There&#x27;s so much talk about how browsers are wildly complicated and that makes it hard to build new ones. But the showstoppers for me with indie browsers rarely have anything at all to do with web compatibility or what engine they&#x27;re using. That&#x27;s not really the part that I feel like is missing. I <i>almost</i> wonder if it would be possible to hook something up to headless Firefox as a middleperson so that Firefox could at least do some work with forcing DoS, running pages through uBlock Origin, quarantining storage, etc...<p>Matrix has sort of tried to work in this direction with some of their clients. Stuff like E2E encryption isn&#x27;t recommended to build yourself -- Matrix tries to provide a service you can link with whatever your custom client is that just handles E2E for you -- that way when you use a custom client, it&#x27;s less likely that they&#x27;ve accidentally encrypted all of your messages incorrectly.
MarcelOlszover 3 years ago
Wicked demo. Been looking for something like this for years. Cheers.
ovebepariover 3 years ago
I would love this as a browser extension than a separate browser!
phrzover 3 years ago
Can you change your search engine? I don&#x27;t use Google.
Socketier88over 3 years ago
Great job, really looking forward to trying this out.
marstallover 3 years ago
sorry if I&#x27;m being dense but what&#x27;s the hotkey to get it into &quot;floaty&quot; mode? That looks super useful.
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monkellipseover 3 years ago
Love this. Using it already. Thank you.
andridkover 3 years ago
Cool concept! Does it come in OS?
derekhsuover 3 years ago
I need a windows version please.
aeroaksover 3 years ago
Waiting for other OS support
Graffurover 3 years ago
The name reminds me of Bonsai buddy... a complete wreck the head computer program from the 90s&#x2F;00s
derekhsuover 3 years ago
I need a windows version
namaljayathungaover 3 years ago
waiting for windows version. thanks for amazing browser.
shreyshnaccountover 3 years ago
anybody know similar apps for Linux?
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