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Amazon Elasticsearch Service Is Now Amazon OpenSearch Service

81 pointsby daigoba66over 3 years ago

14 comments

josephcsibleover 3 years ago
Remember that in this story, as strange as this is to say, Amazon is the good guy. Elastic changed their products from a FOSS license to a proprietary one, and Amazon did exactly what you're supposed to do in that case: fork and continue development of the last FOSS version.
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fshbbdssbbgddover 3 years ago
If I was a mole for Amazon working at Elasticsearch, I can’t think of a better way to accelerate the shift onto AWS’s offering than breaking client comparability with previous versions of Elasticsearch. If a customer needs to upgrade the client for some reason, they are forced to update the server as well. Maybe they’ll just update the client and server to OpenSearch while they’re at it so they don’t have any more forced updates in the future.
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Sebb767over 3 years ago
As far as I'm aware, this is the first major "hostile" fork AWS has done. In fact, it's probably one of the largest ones overall. It will be really interesting to see how this plays out in the long run.
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dhd415over 3 years ago
While this is tangentially related to Amazon&#x27;s fork of Elasticsearch, it&#x27;s more related to Elastic&#x27;s trademark infringement suit against AWS&#x27;s use of the trademarked Elasticsearch name in their managed service, especially egregious given AWS&#x27;s attempt to portray it as a &quot;partnership&quot; with Elastic in a since-deleted tweet:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;ppgosavi&#x2F;status&#x2F;1179181900969037826" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;ppgosavi&#x2F;status&#x2F;11791819009690378...</a>
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binarymaxover 3 years ago
So many people in this discussion take sides. The only thing I see, is divergence. APIs will now evolve separately, and compatibility will break soon. I think this competition and diversification will be good for innovation in search. But it’s also going to be confusing for a while. If you use Elasticsearch in Amazon, you better decide very quickly whether you want to hitch your wagon to the OpenSearch future. Migrating is going to be a pain in a year or two.
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simlevesqueover 3 years ago
I changed from AWS managed ElasticSearch to Elastic.co a couple of months ago. Should have done it sooner.
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thayneover 3 years ago
Good. I wonder if some of this mess could have been avoided if AWS had used a different name to begin with.
thehappypmover 3 years ago
Morale of the story: licenses matter. Get them right.
RONROCover 3 years ago
Here’s what Elasticsearch thinks:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.slashdot.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;21&#x2F;08&#x2F;07&#x2F;0040229&#x2F;elasticsearch-keeps-fighting-open-source-fork-by-amazon-aws" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.slashdot.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;21&#x2F;08&#x2F;07&#x2F;0040229&#x2F;elasticsear...</a>
apiover 3 years ago
Use a copyleft license. If you&#x27;re not, you are just giving free labor to billion dollar companies.
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jrochkind1over 3 years ago
&gt; One of the most important reasons is the freedom to use that software where and how they want.<p>True for me, I agree.
dumpsterdiverover 3 years ago
In OSS, what a company giveth, a company cannot taketh away.
google234123over 3 years ago
This is consequence of open source.
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ckdarbyover 3 years ago
RIP Elastic