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Countries that have accepted the World Passport

89 pointsby psyfiover 3 years ago

21 comments

madacolover 3 years ago
&quot;Success in crossing a border using a World Passport is generally attributable to the whim or ignorance of individual immigration officers, not official recognition of the document.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;World_Passport" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;World_Passport</a>
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nmeofthestateover 3 years ago
So, is this a bit like &quot;clubs that have accepted my fake id, thus proving it is genuine&quot;? I&#x27;m assuming customs are accidentally accepting passports that were printed by internet randos.
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funwaresover 3 years ago
I was interested in the countries in bold that have been listed as officially recognizing the passport.<p>The wikipedia page (which lists this passport as a &quot;fantasy travel document&quot;) is skeptical:<p>&gt; &quot;The World Service Authority website has scans of letters dating from many decades ago from six countries (Burkina Faso, Ecuador, Mauritania, Tanzania, Togo and Zambia) which the WSA claims is legal recognition of the World Passports. &quot;<p>&gt; &quot;These letters of recognition are several decades old (i.e., 1954 for Ecuador, 1972 for Burkina Faso, 1975 for Mauritania, 1995 for Tanzania, 1983 for Togo, 1973 for Zambia)&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;World_Passport" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;World_Passport</a>
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ilamontover 3 years ago
<i>The following is a list of countries which, on at least one occasion, have recognized the World Passport on a &quot;de facto&quot; basis, by stamping a national visa and&#x2F;or entry&#x2F;exit stamp.</i><p>It&#x27;s a stretch to interpret one-off stamps in various countries to recognition of the world passport as a legitimate travel document. &quot;Passports&quot; based on strongly held beliefs about identity (global, regional, tribal, or otherwise) as opposed to national citizenship and the legal frameworks that underpin international travel almost always run into the cold, hard reality of border-crossing procedures, as holders of passports created by North American tribes discovered some years ago:<p>&quot;Native American nations debate sovereignty after Iroquois passport dispute&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deseret.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;7&#x2F;17&#x2F;20128594&#x2F;native-american-nations-debate-sovereignty-after-iroquois-passport-dispute" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deseret.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;7&#x2F;17&#x2F;20128594&#x2F;native-american-n...</a>)<p>&quot;My six nation Haudenosaunee passport is not a &#x27;fantasy document&#x27;&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;commentisfree&#x2F;2015&#x2F;oct&#x2F;30&#x2F;my-six-nation-haudenosaunee-passport-not-fantasy-document-indigenous-nations" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;commentisfree&#x2F;2015&#x2F;oct&#x2F;30&#x2F;my-six...</a>
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theonlybutletover 3 years ago
I would not trust this list at all.<p>Rapper Mos Def was arrested and charged in South Africa for trying to use his &#x27;World Passport&#x27;. It&#x27;s considered a fake document and is a criminal offence.
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JeffRosenbergover 3 years ago
I agree with all the comments here that this seems pretty sketchy, and that &quot;de facto&quot; acceptance seems more like &quot;accidental&quot; acceptance. But I&#x27;ve been interested in the idea of &quot;global citizenship&quot; for a while... Are there any less sketchy organizations working towards a similar end?
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andixover 3 years ago
So most countries probably accepted this passport by accident? By a border guard that was too tired or lazy to take a look, who issued the passport?
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RcouF1uZ4gsCover 3 years ago
For all the talk about &quot;World Citizenship&quot;, the reality is if you actually had world-wide democracy where everyone could vote, you would actually end up with a very regressive government in terms of women&#x27;s rights and LGBTQ rights.<p>Those rights mainly are accepted in Western Europe and the US, and by the business elite in many countries. But among the vast majority of the populations of Asia, Africa, and the Middle East, those rights are not accepted.<p>With such different views about basic rights, I am actually happy that we do not have a global government, but that I can live in a country that respects those rights.
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sumedhover 3 years ago
Their motto is &quot;Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.&quot;<p>You may have the right to leave but you dont have a right to enter a different country without their permission.
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moftzover 3 years ago
An interesting idea but the whole point of a passport is to prove which country are a citizen of. Countries set their visa policies to accept or deny based on passport origin. A US passport can get you a visa quickly in most places in the world but a North Korean passport would likely not. If I can simply pay for a World Passport, what incentive do they have to diligently verify my documents? Obviously a country could produce fake passports for their own citizens but that would be for some specific reason like espionage. Maybe a small country would produce a passport for me with a big bribe but I&#x27;m guessing the countries willing to do so are at the bottom of the list of &quot;most accepted passports&quot;. Allowing anyone to get a passport with little scrutiny just devalues the passport. Perhaps in a more enlightened time, something like a UN passport would allow stateless people to travel easily to countries that would accept it.
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omarhaneefover 3 years ago
Seems very risky to try this.<p>Imagine the authority responsible for border security arrests you for document falsification. You can’t very well call your embassy.
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aptwebappsover 3 years ago
Here&#x27;s an interesting account by the originator meeting Nehru: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.news18.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;india&#x2F;manu-bhagavan&#x2F;an-interview-with-garry-davis-the-first-world-citizen-11457-747207.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.news18.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;india&#x2F;manu-bhagavan&#x2F;an-intervie...</a>
kylehotchkissover 3 years ago
Interesting to see US immigrant visa entry stamps in the photo section - were these people whose countries were no longer viable and were given some special permission to use this passport? Were they refugees? Seems better if US could issue a joint one-time passport&#x2F;visa type of credential for travelers in those situations
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olsover 3 years ago
This &quot;World Passport&quot; document is on the official EU list of fantasy passports to which a visa may not be affixed: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;home-affairs&#x2F;list-known-fantasy-and-camouflage-passports_en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;home-affairs&#x2F;list-known-fantasy-and-cam...</a>. No EU country recognizes it.<p>I just checked the scan &quot;confirming&quot; that it is accepted by Poland and that proof is a temporary 14 day visa issued in June 1990 in Berlin embassy by a 65y old communist diplomat&#x2F;spy (according to publicly available documents). With a stamp of &quot;Polish People&#x27;s Republic&quot; - a name that was changed to &quot;Republic of Poland&quot; at the end of 1989. I guess that was a moment in time where anyone in that embassy could happily stamp an outdated visa on anything for $50.
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marcus_holmesover 3 years ago
One of the Aussie visas is clearly from Canada, doesn&#x27;t bode well for their grasp of geography.<p>edit: see below. I didn&#x27;t read it right.
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nivenkosover 3 years ago
I love that it even has Esperanto on the cover.
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tim333over 3 years ago
We could do with a more real version of this with an area of land that anyone could go live. Maybe the US &#x2F; EU could lease somewhere for 200 years say for refugees and the like to be able to hang out?
Aeolunover 3 years ago
I like the idea, but something about this feels really dubious to me. I notice that the person that started all this is still the ‘world govenor’, and has single handedly appointed all the commitees.
beej71over 3 years ago
I like the idea (from WP) of having it as the passport you hand over in a place that requires it (for motorbike rental or somesuch).
dathinabover 3 years ago
Hm,<p>&quot;tricking&quot; personal at the border(1) =! country accepted passport of certain kind<p>(1) Or personal was aware but simply didn&#x27;t care.
pixiemasterover 3 years ago
looks like a good idea, at least symbolically.<p>But: upload a scan of my ID card to an untrusted source? isn’t there a better way?