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A Short History of Objective-C (2017)

68 pointsby nochover 3 years ago

6 comments

kryptisktover 3 years ago
There was a paper on Objective-C in the last HOPL conference for those who want something meatier:<p>&quot;The origins of Objective-C at PPI&#x2F;Stepstone and its evolution at NeXT&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dl.acm.org&#x2F;doi&#x2F;10.1145&#x2F;3386332" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dl.acm.org&#x2F;doi&#x2F;10.1145&#x2F;3386332</a>
AndrewStephensover 3 years ago
I am a C++ guy but I dabbled in Obj-C for a while. I think my progression was similar to a lot of people:<p>1) Uggh, this language sucks. What&#x27;s with all the [] everywhere? Why are the parameter names included in the signature? Why are allocation and initialization separate operations? This is a joke.<p>2) Hold on! You can replace methods at runtime? You can swap out implementations on the fly? Calling methods is incredibly flexible yet also optimized up the wazooo?<p>3) Wait a minute! You can call methods by name at runtime? Even from dynamically loaded libraries? I always thought Windows COM sucked, now I understand how much better it could have been. This is the best language ever!<p>I haven&#x27;t done any ObjC for years but sometimes I miss its flexibility. It wasn&#x27;t all roses, sometimes lifetime management was a pain for instance, but ObjC doesn&#x27;t deserve its reputation as a weird, unloved language.
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_ka_over 3 years ago
And the short story is not end, there is a very good cross cross platform implementation for Objective-C that runs at Linux,Windows,OSX,Haiku-OS and so on... And is very active in development. :D<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;objfw.nil.im" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;objfw.nil.im</a>
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zer0zzzover 3 years ago
ObjC is more dynamic than people think. See things like swizzling and non-fragile instance variables. ObjC object orientation is closer to what folks on Java and C# consider the job of reflection.
NelsonMinarover 3 years ago
This history stops in 1995 which is right about when I started using Objective C for Swarm, an agent simulation system. We may have been the only major non-NeXTstep user of Objective C at the time. GNU Objective C was a key enabler for us; without it we couldn&#x27;t have used it.<p>We picked ObjC over C++ because it was so much smaller and simpler. Also reflective, at the time it was very hard at runtime to learn anything about a C++ type. It was a pretty good match for our needs at the time. tclobjc also helped a lot because it let us use Tk for the GUI.
Normilleover 3 years ago
2017 --please put the date in the title when posting archaeology!
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