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The never-ending product requirements of user authorization

67 pointsby CSDudeover 3 years ago

8 comments

twundeover 3 years ago
For anyone who wants to learn what a good authorization system looks like take a look at Tailscale&#x27;s recent blog post: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tailscale.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;rbac-like-it-was-meant-to-be&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tailscale.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;rbac-like-it-was-meant-to-be&#x2F;</a><p>Really, if you&#x27;re going to be selling to enterprise clients, you want an attribute-based authorization system. If you need help designing it, talk to your IT&#x2F;Devops&#x2F;SRE teams, they&#x27;ll be able to complain about bad auth systems and what they&#x27;d want in an ideal world.
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codeisawesomeover 3 years ago
Interesting project, the post resonated, there are more architectural considerations here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.cerbos.dev&#x2F;cerbos&#x2F;0.6.0&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.cerbos.dev&#x2F;cerbos&#x2F;0.6.0&#x2F;index.html</a>
anthonydelageover 3 years ago
Even as a PdM, I&#x27;ve felt the pain here. Usually it manifests as, &quot;we can&#x27;t solve this user problem because the authorization controls to make this work are too complex.&quot;<p>Looking forward to a world where this is a solved problem.<p>Disclaimer: Im friends with the author of the post.
emrebover 3 years ago
CEO of Cerbos here - we&#x27;d love to hear about the other headaches everyone has faced. Authorization as we know it, isn&#x27;t core to anyone&#x27;s roadmap and we want to make it as easy as possible to meet the all the crazy requirements.<p>We are building out examples of how to solve common use cases which you can find on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cerbos.dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cerbos.dev&#x2F;</a>
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nhoughtoover 3 years ago
Related and very interesting: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28543457" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=28543457</a><p>Good to see more things happening in this space.
hamilyon2over 3 years ago
Access control is heart and mind of any business logic, is your backend system itself. You cannot outsource it, this is absurd.<p>The main question is &quot;what if it goes wrong?&quot;
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svnpennover 3 years ago
Isn&#x27;t this just reinventing OAuth?<p>OAuth already has grant_type and &quot;scope&quot; to cover different devices, flows and permissions.
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Jay1234over 3 years ago
Please can you help me on it, I want it
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