Hi everyone,<p>I am Tudor, CTO at Xata.<p>Thanks for posting the link! We’re not yet ready for you to try it out, so it is maybe a bit too early to show it to this community. We will probably do a proper Show HN post once we are ready.<p>Nevertheless we are thrilled to be here! :)<p>For a few more details, see also our first blog post: <a href="https://www.xata.io/blog/hello-world/" rel="nofollow">https://www.xata.io/blog/hello-world/</a><p>We’re building a database service that is extremely easy to use (think of Airtable and its rich data types), yet providing the usual guarantees offered by traditional databases (consistency, transactions, constraints). We also have a built-in analytics and search engine, so you no longer have to copy the data from the DB to the search engine. There are other features that we’re really excited about (native branches, easy-to-use joins, caching, security rules), but we’re going to be able to talk a lot more once we’re ready for users.<p>We’d love your feedback and if you’d be interested to work with us, please don’t hesitate to reach out.
Maybe I'm in my bubbel since I'm the founder of another "database / backend" as a service company (<a href="https://nhost.io" rel="nofollow">https://nhost.io</a>) but it's been a lot of new startups in this space which is fun to see.<p>- Firebase<p>- Nhost<p>- AppSync<p>- Supabase<p>- 8base<p>- AppWrite<p>- Xata<p>I like your focus on workflow, PRs, branching etc. I think it's going to be key to solve end-to-end problems for developers in the future.<p>Congratulation on the raise and I'm excited to test our your service once it's launched. Good Luck!
Bitter tale of a serverless experience: Serverless is great until you spend weeks building something in Cloudflare Pages and Workers, then add it to Google and... Google claims your site doesn't exist.<p>Search Console Live Test gives a vague 'General HTTP Error', Rich Results Test says the 'page is unavailable', Ad Words says 'Destination not working'. Bing indexes your site with no problems, and every device you and your friends own works fine, every uptime tester on the planet says you're good. Cloudflare shows no firewall events and logs are a 'contact us for pricing' Enterprise-only feature.<p>So what do you do - if Google thinks your serverless site doesn't exist, and you can't debug it because it's all magic? You can't do anything. Back to conventional hosting you go.
It’s a database, an analytics tool, a search engine and a spreadsheet. Sorry, I just felt like I was watching late night TV shopping.<p>As a product this makes some sense, but as with most new products, on-prem is ignored. We’re moving more customers off public cloud than we help launch new product on cloud offerings.<p>The current situation in the EU makes these SaaS offerings almost irrelevant. Companies and governments are very reluctant in picking any cloud services.
What is this exactly, a bit of a poor page/not developer friendly so who is the audience, people who use excel? Is it SQL? Key store? No examples just trying to get lots of catchy phrases/buzzwords on.
Nice to see more possibilities in this space, database branches look particularly interesting and useful for the JAMstack world! That's definitely something that's hard to manage in CI/CD for JAMstack apps.<p>It's also interesting to see more database services support HTTP APIs. SingleStore recently launched support for an HTTP API as well (<a href="https://docs.singlestore.com/managed-service/en/reference/http-api.html" rel="nofollow">https://docs.singlestore.com/managed-service/en/reference/ht...</a>). I think most database services should follow suit due to how popular serverless frameworks are becoming, and the need to have connectionless pooling. I have some questions such as:<p>* Will all these HTTP APIs support most authentication methods already used by these database services? Or will they likely only support some sort of API token based auth?<p>* Could HTTP caching ever be useful for these? Or just internal database caching?<p>* Is security a concern any more so than with regular TCP connections?<p>* Will all your typical ORMs "just work"? I think the answer is "yes", but there are some more modern ORMs that I wouldn't be too sure about (e.g. Prisma).<p>Disclaimer: I work at SingleStore, which is a database service for data-intensive apps as well.
This seems awesome!<p>I'm most excited about the support for "better" migrations and interaction via a GUI.<p>While we're not strictly Jamstack, I could absolutely see us using this as an auxiliary to our primary production database, i.e. for prototyping or launching new features rapidly without having to migrate the full prod schema.<p>To use this alongside our production dbs, my wishlist would be:<p>1. A way to "eject" to raw postgres/etc, gives me peace of mind that if things don't work out, I can still take my pg_dump and go home.
2. Maybe a Prisma.io integration?! Would allow it to play nicely with out non-serverless backend, while ALSO catering to serverless applications.<p>Just some thoughts!
How big is the market for this I wonder? I run a product like it for free for 15 years now and while it has 100000s users and 1000s of companies running off it, there are only a few who would not skip to self hosted/cloud hosted instead of paying us. We are fully free (no pricing page) but we talk to our users and some sponsor us (just send some money to PayPal willy nilly when they feel like it) ; most of them say they like our solution better than others however they would just pop their own server if we would charge. Seeing how much excitement this brings, I guess I should try adding a pricing page and calling their bluff.
Why would anyone use this as opposed to the DB offerings provided within the respective serverless cloud platforms? I think cloud platforms also charge more for egress to 3rd party services as well
I think the spreadsheet view isn't that big as big a deal as its position on the page suggests. The branching however, is actually pretty awesome.<p>On a 24" screen, the features are all below the fold. Above the fold is taken up by a huge hero section that looks nice, but is taken up by a huge animation and a header that's mostly buzzwords. You do have a paragraph with some good info, but really doesn't catch my eye. I literally had to scroll down 2-3 screen heights to get to the first feature that stood out to me (and that paragraph I mentioned didn't even feature it)<p>Double down on what sets you apart.
Nice landing page but very little in terms of how this actually works. Also no pricing so I can't anticipate how much this might cost me. Speaking of pricing: any chance there wil lbe a free-forever tier?
Looks promising. Platforms such as Netlify have greatly simplified the development of web applications. Recently I tried Netlify forms - child's play, in 4 minutes I had a working form with e-mail notification. All I had to do was create the correct HTML code. If they simplify the use of the database in simple projects in a similar way, it will be a great success.
Well, congrats with the launch!<p>As for "too early" - well, yes. Sounds good in theory, except there's absolutely no detail from both a developer or a founder's perspective.<p>That is, can't provide feedback when there's nothing apart from the landing page to evaluate :/<p>Some preliminary API docs maybe? Those should spark a discussion pretty well imho
I know this is petty and arguably irrelevant, but I hope you find the feedback useful. The spacing and alignment on your some of your visuals is sloppy and distracted me from your otherwise well put together messaging. The row level security graphic is the one that stands out the most in this regard.
Looks interesting!<p>What is a "connectionless api"? I have not heard that phrase before?<p>Can I use this instead of DynamoDB global tables? Where does it sit RE CAP?
I had recently come across postgrest.. API on postgre SQL. Is this on similar lines (obviously xata looks more robust, feature rich than postgrest, but are on the same lines?)