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London riots / UK riots: verified areas

100 pointsby otherwisealmost 14 years ago

12 comments

Fargrenalmost 14 years ago
I'm almost embarrassed to ask, but why is this happening? I read that this started saturday as a protest against a policeman who shot someone, but that doesn't seem to be what the protests is about now. The sources I checked don't reach any kind of consensus.
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SandB0xalmost 14 years ago
I'm in my flat in NW2 and I can hear police cars going down the Edgware Road. Fucking terrifying. The police can't keep up, according to the news they're showing up hours late to everything and they don't have any water cannons. Bad times.<p>Edit: #riotcleanup tomorrow morning all over town: <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/search/riotcleanup" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/#!/search/riotcleanup</a>
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LoonyPandoraalmost 14 years ago
I'm a Londoner near some of the affected areas. The sky is not falling, London is not degenerating into lawlessness, and from what I can see from my flat window, police are responding quickly.<p>Other areas may be different, but London is a very large city - commenters should remember that in discussions.
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viialmost 14 years ago
Seems to me that this would be a huge opportunity for some well co-ordinated use of social media by the MET: many people have seen looters return to their home with their swag and would probably be delighted to report it anonymously - along with all photos taken by people of the actual looting. The refugees seem to have no clear contact number let alone website to go to on their smartphones. These people surely are motivated to inform on the rioters and quite probably have useful knowledge.<p>And finally, phone location records - even without call history and text messages - could be data-mined to give leads on the rioters - when they go home to sleep pick them up with the loot, and you have an easier case than two weeks later with it all squirrelled away.
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jsmcgdalmost 14 years ago
For me this is simple opportunism. The authorities have clearly been overwhelmed and people are able to do what they like with impunity. I really think the state response needs to escalate.
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nsimplexalmost 14 years ago
Hearing the accounts from some commuters returning home of what they witnessed on their commute; it struck me as the first time I hear a use case where Color would actually add some value. ;)<p>Also it is amusing to see the looters use BBM, which has been the corporate -type favoured mean of communication to loot the economy for years.<p>On a serious note, just heard a devastating interview with a 6th generation furniture store manager, while witnessing his family store go up in flames (you will see the pic tomorrow in most of the frontages).<p>It is extraordinarily terrifying to consider the implications if the thugs were a bit more organised, a bit more dispersed, a bit more armed; how much more havoc they could cause.<p>For example consider the implication to the economy if they start targeting more affluent locations, such the central London high streets (Oxford street, Knightsbridge...). The insurance industry has already been wiped out this year, it will be a deadly blow. To say nothing of the recently depressed UK retail performance which fuels a lot of the London economy.<p>Or the implications to house prices and thousands of stretched mortgage holders (London housing bubble is perhaps the only housing bubble in the world that hasn't quite popped in the last two years, and if it does at this time it will be cataclysmic) .<p>No doubt they already wrecked immeasurable damage to the economy, except they bankrupt the already bankrupt councils, which is the core tragedy in all of this.
reinhardtalmost 14 years ago
Can't help but compare this to the uprising in the Middle East over the last months. Sure, the motivation is different, or even incomprehensible in the case of London. Still, they're both begging the question "why now?" and they exhibit characteristics of a highly contagious epidemic, where the original reasons are almost irrelevant. People frustrated for all sorts of different reasons find the opportunity to express violently their anger with much less fear of repercussions than usual, mostly thanks to their sheer number and decentralization. It's fascinating (or scary, depending how close you are).
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ColinWrightalmost 14 years ago
What would be really useful would be to have this colour coded by day so we could see the evolution through time.
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viraptoralmost 14 years ago
I found this page pretty good: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/aug/08/london-riots-third-night-live" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/aug/08/london-riots-t...</a> Updated every couple of minutes with reports from various sources.<p>Also according to the latest updates, there are some incidents in Birmingham and Liverpool.
willytalmost 14 years ago
Apparently the rioters are organising using blackberry messenger. Seems like the police are about 2 hours behind what's happening.
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FrojoSalmost 14 years ago
So much for all that video camera surveillance (CCTV) in London.
ctdonathalmost 14 years ago
And now for something completely insensitive: <a href="http://wondermark.com/743/" rel="nofollow">http://wondermark.com/743/</a>