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Canada imposes Covid-19 vaccine mandate on federal workers, transportation

44 pointsby begoonover 3 years ago

7 comments

mabboover 3 years ago
To be fair, he said he&#x27;d do this during the election a couple weeks ago, and got reelected. Still a minority government, but honestly the same result as the last election.<p>Canadians are, for the most part, okay with these restrictions.
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motohagiographyover 3 years ago
There are a few outs for this in the event of legal challanges. It&#x27;s likely this goes against the Charter, and it would be absurd for a minority government to invoke the &quot;notwithstanding clause,&quot; to force it through, which is a government veto on everything else in the charter.<p>A mandate also means the people subject to it are not giving their consent, sort of like how you &quot;consent&quot; to an invasive search in an airport, which violates privacy laws for health information in most provinces. The policy is contemptible, and even though I can&#x27;t think of a better cohort for forced medical procedures than the architects of this appalling attack on freedom who work in the permanent state, I would still defend their individual liberty and bodily integrity as much as the next Canadian.<p>Further, you get nothing back for complying. You still wear masks, you still show a vaccine passport to eat indoors, (with slots for 10 or more boosters in some cases), the government still destroys small businesses and forfeits its accountability to &quot;committees&quot; of scientists, who are mostly social scientists, as though letting scientists decide policy was legitimate at all. So called emergency powers that enable random stop and question powers for vague deputized and untrained people remain on the books &quot;just in case.&quot;<p>I understand your passport shows the date of your shot that you have to share with whoever demands it, so once you have hesitated, does it really matter how long, comrade?<p>Authoritarianism isn&#x27;t science. Submission is not a civic duty. I&#x27;ve been predicting this stuff since the beginning and haven&#x27;t been wrong yet. However, this country is so divided I&#x27;m not even angry, as that would be frustration from the assumption these people can be reasoned with. The only thing you can do is hold them to the law.
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xyzzy_plughover 3 years ago
I agree with some of the quoted unions&#x2F;groups: implementation details are too vague.<p>Pilots and aircrew are not federal employees, do they need to be vaccinated? (I know the answer, but it&#x27;s addressed poorly by this policy.<p>There was talk about very strict medical exemptions, which is great as it is otherwise a path ripe for abuse, but I&#x27;m hearing that religious exemptions are still being considered.<p>The unions I&#x27;ve heard about are encouraging religious exemptions and a &quot;take your word for it&quot; proof policy, where your supervisor <i>can</i> ask for evidence but is not required to.<p>It&#x27;ll be interesting to see how this plays out.
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cmrdporcupineover 3 years ago
Looking forward to it. I&#x27;ll feel much more comfortable taking my unvaccinated son to visit family. And taking trips myself.
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downandoutover 3 years ago
At the very least, I don’t understand why these are vaccine mandates and not antibody mandates. A mandate that does not take natural immunity into account is political policy that ignores science.
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gfodorover 3 years ago
Your options for being able to exit Canada now are severely restricted if you are unvaccinated, particularly if you cannot enter the US. It appears you will need to charter a private plane or ship to emigrate. I suspect the right to emigrate (a human right according to the UN) will be further restricted by authoritarian regimes around the world such as the one running Canada.
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foxhopover 3 years ago
lock out culture and cancel culture divides nations. Segregate, divide, and conquer.
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