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Exercises for a programmer sitting by the PC all day

113 pointsby NARKOZalmost 14 years ago

19 comments

stiffalmost 14 years ago
There is hardly any knowledge of human physiology behind most of the answers, just like the question was "what exercises do you like" and not "exercises for someone sitting by the PC all day". Sitting at a desk for 8+ hours tends to cause various posture problems through shortening and chronic contraction of some muscle groups (e.g. hip flexors) and weakening of others (e. g. glutes). Especially cycling strikes me as a bizarre recommendation, I would say 2 hours of cycling has the same effect on posture as 8 additional hours of sitting at the desk. The recommendation to do bench presses is a great way to further round ones already rounded (from all the sitting at the keyboard) shoulders. Swimming is great, but not everyone has warm weather all year long or likes swimming pools. For someone looking for gym exercises for people with desk-bound jobs I would recommend this more:<p><a href="http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/deconstructing_computer_guy" rel="nofollow">http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_trai...</a><p><a href="http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/deconstructing_computer_guy_the_other_23_hours" rel="nofollow">http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_trai...</a>
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Swizecalmost 14 years ago
What works (and has worked for at least a year) for me is taking 30 minutes every morning to exercise. The regime used to be very simple, it's gotten more complex as time went on.<p>Right now I'm at 110 pushups, 130 situps, 50 side situps, 3min abdominal bridge and 10 minutes of jumprope or shadow boxing.<p>I used to also do two hours of boxing at a gym three times a week and that was really the best thing ever until it got too expensive.<p>But the best effect of doing this every day isn't even physical. It's the knowledge that no matter how sucky a day turns out to be, I have done something to better myself.
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psykoticalmost 14 years ago
This will strike most of you as weird, but I have a door-frame pull-up bar, gymnastic rings, a kettlebell, a jump rope and paralleletes for my office at work. I mostly use them on weekends or after normal office hours so it won't distract other people. Exactly what I do varies but often I'll do something like submaximal sets (e.g. 15 pull-ups followed by 15 ring dips) on the hour, every hour, throughout the day. It's a good way to build strength endurance, and it really helps my body reset and relax so I can concentrate more on thinking.<p>"Any exercise" is definitely better than nothing at all, but I'd do something that addresses your specific issues. For example, I tend to get really tense in my shoulders and upper back when I'm programming, and doing push-ups to failure is a great way of releasing the tension. Back when I was completely out of shape, I managed to build up to 40 push-ups per set in a month of just doing them daily to release tension. I started at 10 and just added one more rep per set every day. It was a nice bonus.
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simon_weberalmost 14 years ago
"Any exercise" gets my vote. It seems to me that a lot of people - myself included - get wrapped up in the body hack mentality (4-Hour Body?) or in finding the "best" exercises, when the important thing is just to get moving and make it fun.
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jpallenalmost 14 years ago
It sounds silly, but I find juggling is a great way to get a bit of exercise in the office. Once you can juggle it's a great way to step away from a problem and do something interesting but mindless for a while. After 10-15 minutes of it your arms will have had a little workout.
Flowalmost 14 years ago
Install something like WorkRave for Windows and Linux: <a href="http://www.workrave.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.workrave.org/</a> or TimeOut for Mac OS X: <a href="http://www.dejal.com/timeout/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dejal.com/timeout/</a> to avoid sitting still for too long.
vimalg2almost 14 years ago
In my experience, Squats and Deadlifts with a 7' Olympic bar are the best bang for your 'time-bucks'.<p>I'm also looking at Hindu Squats as the 'do-anywhere'/'rainy day'/'other excuse' general purpose exercise.
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Khaoalmost 14 years ago
What really works for me is using Endomondo.com to track my workouts and using C25K to do my jogging all on my Android phone. I really want to exercise because I need to if I don't want to become ridden with health problems, but motivation is what really made it impossible for me in the past. Now by using both tools on my cellphone I have the motivation to go out and do some exercise because it appeals the geek in me. I want to better myself so that I can look at the graph of my performance and say "wow! I'm getting better!". If I jog 30 minutes each time I jog, I will at least try to beat the distance I have set last time since Endomondo is tracking all the data from my runs. Also, there are a lot of user-made challenges on Endomondo, and it further motivates me (for example : Travel 150km in August, running or cycling).<p>I think a lot of people have the same problem I had : They know they NEED to work out, they don't really know how or even if they do, they don't have to motivation to go out and do it. The problem is that you don't see instant results when you work out, it takes weeks and months to see the results, but by using all sorts of tracking tools, it motivates you to keep getting better because you will be able to see exactly your progress as you make it.
kkovacsalmost 14 years ago
Workrave is a must have, unfortunately there is no OS X version :( (If someone can show something similar (not AntiRSI), I'd be grateful...)<p>And, these sitting yoga exercises can really help: <a href="http://www.soundtells.com/YogaSitting/Online/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.soundtells.com/YogaSitting/Online/index.htm</a>
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msluyteralmost 14 years ago
This exercise has had some clinical support for treating Tennis Elbow. I've also found it helpful for general wrist/hand strengthening:<p><a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/phys-ed-an-easy-fix-for-tennis-elbow/" rel="nofollow">http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/phys-ed-an-easy-fix...</a>
yummyfajitasalmost 14 years ago
Assuming the exercises are going to be done during breaks from the computer, I'd recommend taking a look at Convict Conditioning. Most bodyweight training programs tend to focus on increasing volume, e.g. hundredpushups.com. In contrast, CC increases strength by progressing to more difficult versions of the exercises.<p>For example, instead of going from 20 to 100 ordinary pushups, you go from pushups -&#62; diamond pushups -&#62; uneven pushups -&#62; one handed pushups. (I gloss over a few steps).<p>As long as you can ignore the stupid marketing name, CC is actually a very good program to follow. (Of course, lifting actual weights at a gym might help too.)
ulisesrochealmost 14 years ago
I actually recommend Judo/BJJ as a form of exercise that lets you apply and sharpen your problem-solving skills, aside from getting you very much in shape. I tried keeping track of stats and stuff, but often give up because it's too much work. The mirror check is far more effective. (Am I fat? yes/no)
john2xalmost 14 years ago
I try to do "medium" weight lifting 3 times a week at home. It's good, it helps, but I know it could be better. I've been at a plateau for several months now, though. I sometimes feel bad when I miss a workout now.<p>Also, I keep on looking for a nice standing desk so I don't have to sit all day.
dredmorbiusalmost 14 years ago
I'm seeing a fair number of hacker/fitness articles at HN, and there are some long-live well-known instances online (John Walker's "Hacker Diet", Jeremy Zawodny "Diet Tips"). At the same time, there's a lot of naiveté in many of the comments.<p>A few basic principles might be helpful here.<p><i>1: It's really not that complicated.</i> There are a few well-known principles of weight/fat gain and loss, cardiovascular fitness, and strength / hypertrophy (muscle building) training. You'll get a long way with sound nutrition based on good food choices, appropriate caloric intake for your goals, and the right mix of both cardio and strength training modalities (methods). A decent starting point is Liam Rosen's "Beginners Guide": <a href="http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html</a> Understand concepts such as SAID / training specificity, progressive overload, and caloric balance.<p><i>2: Do some research.</i> The Wikipedia "Strength Training" article covers basics of sets, reps, weights, and rest periods for use in strength training. ExRx.net (<a href="http://exrx.net" rel="nofollow">http://exrx.net</a>) has a lot of solid information and exercise guides. YouTube is a great resource for finding form videos (both good and bad) for exercises. Watching Olympic lifters is inspiring, watching "fail" vids has its own benefits.... Read Michael Pollan, Andrew Weil, and others on diet. I'm not a nutrition nazi -- there are a huge range of native diets, people vary, and lifestyle demands vary, though I'd suggest minimizing the highly processed crap you eat (and a lot of foods you might not consider "highly processed" or "crap" are). But go ahead and read Dean Ornish (low-fat), Atkins (low carb), Vegan (no animal products) classic old-school bodybuilding (BIG FOOD, high protein) sources. Figure out which seems most sensible and appropriate to you. Jack LaLanne got a ton of stuff right in the 1950s. Understand your basic macronutrients (carbs, protein, fats) and how they're used by your body.<p><i>3: Read a good book on fitness.</i> One of the best I've seen in the past decade is <i>The New Rules of Lifting</i> by Lou Schuler and Alwyn Cosgrove. It covers basics of fitness, nutrition, strength training, identifies six foundational exercises (squats, deads, lunges, "push" (presses), "pull" (rows/chins), and twist). Coverage of some of the more technical lifts (squats and deads) is limited, I'd suggest Mark Rippetoe's comprehensive and excellent <i>Starting Strength</i>, for this. I'm a fan too of a good 5x5 program (such as Rippetoe's or as you'll find at <a href="http://www.stronglifts.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stronglifts.com/</a>). "New Rules" includes a suite of training programs aimed at various goals, which others may like. <i>Body for Life</i> is another good pick. There's considerable scholarly research on strength training as well, Google Scholar is a good place to do some digging (but don't obsess with minutia and details).<p><i>4: Realize that this is a long-term, lifetime project.</i> Start light, start short, start easy. But start. <i>Increase the intensity and duration of exercise gradually over time.</i> Too many novices obsess over how much weight they should use, what intensity they should exercise at, or how long they should move. <i>It doesn't matter</i>, and lighter/less is better initially. The 5x5 programs above start light and add 5# per lift per workout (10# for deads). Believe it or not, this is a rapid progression, and though the programs start very easy, they get challenging within a month or two. You'll stick with them for 3-9 months typically, then switch programs according to your goals.<p><i>5: Training should be balanced.</i> This doesn't mean doing everything every day. It does mean that you want to include both strength and cardio, that nutrition <i>and</i> exercise matter. That you want to train your front <i>and</i> your back (no, pushups and crunches are <i>not</i> a comprehensive training program, and can lead to or exacerbate imbalances in the long run), your top <i>and</i> your bottom, multiple planes of motion (sagittal tends to dominate, transverse and frontal are neglected), varying rep/set/weight ranges (strength: 1-6, size: 8-12, endurance: 15+), both interval and long-duration cardio. Compound/whole-body and freeweight lifts are generally preferred, though isolation movements have their place, especially in bringing up weak points or for rehab. Bilateral (balanced) and unilateral (one-side at a time) movements. Excesses in any one dimension can be bad (look up the bone-loss issues of competitive cyclists for some really interesting reading).<p><i>6: Rest and recovery matter.</i> Training is stimulus. Food is fuel. <i>Recovery is when your body adapts to stimulus with what you feed it.</i> Yes, you really <i>can</i> burn fat while you sleep (and do routinely).<p><i>7: Intensity matters.</i> If there's one error I see at gyms, it's working out at too little intensity, usually cardio, for too long. I can point you at a 4-minute workout that will 1) have you trying to get your lungs back inside you and 2) have very significant impacts on your cardio potential as measured by VO2 Max (it's called Tabata intervals, Google it). Yes, this is what that idiotic $14,000 SkyMall exercise thing is based on, but you can do 'em with minimal equipment -- jumprope or burpees -- among other alternatives.<p><i>8: Training should be goal-oriented.</i> Define your goals (usually something like "lose fat", "gain muscle", "run faster", "get over this nagging &#60;insert problem here&#62; issue". Find out what training modalities work best for this. If you're working with a trainer <i>ask WHY you're doing a particular exercise or training method.</i><p><i>9: You're not that special.</i> Premature optimization of fitness regimes is the heart of much fitness evil. Start with a basic program. Especially as a novice, you'll make rapid gains -- and as a consequence, you'll think you've found the One True Way. That's complete bullshit -- you've just experienced the Novice Effect (Google that). As you progress toward goals, training specificity will increase -- you're tailoring your program to both your goals and your body's ability to adapt. You'll learn about training cycles (sets/reps, weekly, meso, and macro cycles).<p><i>10: There's a ton of fitness information on the InterWebs.</i> Some of it's silly/stupid/biased, some isn't. I've noted a few good starting points. T-Nation (mentioned by others) has an active forums section, as do other fitness sites. Share knowledge. It's not just for IT/CS problems.<p>Answering the original post: I'd say techies (or anyone) would benefit from a weekly exercise regime consisting of 2-4 days of whole-body freeweight training, a HIIT cardio session or two, and an endurance cardio session or two. Addressing typical issues such as upper-cross syndrome, weak posterior chain, excess carb consumption, and generally neglected muscular strength, particularly lower-body (legs, glutes, spinal erectors) will matter. How far you take this is up to you, but you'll be stronger, hurt less, do more, and as you get older (it will happen, eventually), look and feel better. Especially naked.
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jberrymanalmost 14 years ago
This might just be me, but I find that doing 20 pushups every hour sort of helps "reset" my back, neck and ab muscles, and keeps me from getting chronic pain from unnecessary, habitual tension (holding my stomach, locking neck muscles, pushing shoulders forward, etc.)
ansyalmost 14 years ago
I am not a physical therapist, but I did find a video of some interesting hand/wrist/elbow exercises which can be done at a desk or while riding in a car. [1]<p>[1] <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hlWgH3_0NU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hlWgH3_0NU</a>
wenbertalmost 14 years ago
I jog with my wife a couple of times a week; back-pains, neck, etc. are all gone. I mean _everything_. I feel much better.<p>Seriously, jogging makes me feel better and helps me think straight.<p>I can now sit down in coffeeshop for a couple of hours without a $500 chair.
mitkoalmost 14 years ago
don't forget eye excersices - they eye doctor recommended the other day that every half an hour or so I rest my eyes from staring at the monitor by looking at something few meters away or just closing them.
anactofgodalmost 14 years ago
Don't sit all day. Stand.