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Show HN: I built a website builder on top of Notion

180 pointsby noahbraggover 3 years ago

25 comments

itakeover 3 years ago
notion websites are so slow. Google&#x27;s page speed for your home page has a score of 42. Why does it say &quot;fast page speed&quot; and &quot;great seo&quot;?<p>This [1] demo scores 81 and this[2] has a 68.<p>[0] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.google.com&#x2F;speed&#x2F;pagespeed&#x2F;insights&#x2F;?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.potion.so%2F" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.google.com&#x2F;speed&#x2F;pagespeed&#x2F;insights&#x2F;?url=...</a><p>[1] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.google.com&#x2F;speed&#x2F;pagespeed&#x2F;insights&#x2F;?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsleek.potion.so%2F" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.google.com&#x2F;speed&#x2F;pagespeed&#x2F;insights&#x2F;?url=...</a><p>[2] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.google.com&#x2F;speed&#x2F;pagespeed&#x2F;insights&#x2F;?url=https:&#x2F;&#x2F;onepage.potion.so&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.google.com&#x2F;speed&#x2F;pagespeed&#x2F;insights&#x2F;?url=...</a>
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andygcookover 3 years ago
Noah&#x27;s a fun person to follow for those of you who are interested in indie businesses and are on Twitter[0] He&#x27;s been sharing his MRR growth and learnings while building Potion for awhile now.<p>@noahbragg - Given that you&#x27;re built 100% on top of Notion (or at least I think you are), how are you thinking about platform risk long term? They could cut you off their APIs, end life for some undocumented API you rely on, or just build your features into their own product at any point.<p>[0]- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;noahwbragg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;noahwbragg</a>
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aetherspawnover 3 years ago
I haven&#x27;t been this excited about a website builder for a long time. I can definitely see myself switching from Squarespace to this!<p>Could you please clarify whether we can use something like AWS CloudFront or Cloudflare in front of this without issues?<p>Edit: Really need hierarchical nav menu&#x27;s though. That&#x27;s an immediate killer. I&#x27;ll switch right now if you say that you can support submenus in the next month or so.<p>Edit 2: Another suggestion, can we have per-page injection? And split the content injection capabilities so we can inject in either the header or the footer? This would be useful, for example, if we want to inject less important scripts or styles at the bottom of the page so that we don&#x27;t drop lighthouse ranking. This is a low priority feature request.
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yawnxyzover 3 years ago
Hmm I built something like this on top of Svelte Cloudflare workers API, and the configs controller for the site itself is using a Notion table.<p>The reason I built this to replace a Wordpress site is because the rest of our ecosystem is a bunch of Svelte apps, and with this we could just drop content from Notion straight into our site.<p>We can even use fancy pants things like synced blocks for site-wide announcements, etc. etc.<p>One caveat with using Notion though is that without a good caching strategy (which we don&#x27;t have), the site&#x27;s going to be pretty slow, because Notion&#x27;s API just fetches block by block. You have to have a &quot;cache mode&quot; for production - something that fetches and caches every X amount of time, and have users hit the cache rather than straight from Notion, since it sometimes can take 10+ seconds, which will time out your worker.
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pl0xover 3 years ago
The author Noah is using this for promotion while making fun of HN commenters <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;noahwbragg&#x2F;status&#x2F;1451308730994212869" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;noahwbragg&#x2F;status&#x2F;1451308730994212869</a><p>Maybe Show HN mosts need more guardrails to prevent shameless promotion. Producthunt is better suited for this.
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IceWreckover 3 years ago
I mean this is cool and all but this is literally double lock in. Notion can&#x27;t be self hosted and neither can this. Why would you depend on either of these for your website.<p>Not to mention using Notion as a CMS means you&#x27;re limited in what you can do, zero extensibility, etc.
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damechenover 3 years ago
Love it! I have multiple sites hosted by Potion. This is just one of them: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.testimonial.to" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.testimonial.to</a>
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ljmover 3 years ago
The beauty of the web is that you can take something and then make something else out of it. I love that.<p>Potion has pricing though. And I&#x27;m not gonna pay, because I don&#x27;t know what the setup is - am I paying for Potion to run a Notion account with my stuff in, and then they layer on top?<p>Or are they reselling part of their own account?<p>Or do I need to pay for a Notion account also?
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trkuljaover 3 years ago
Hey Noah nice to see you here! Glad I could contribute even a small amount (the Savvy Portfolio template) to this awesome project.<p>To the people here wondering how does this compare to Squarespace and Wix: it does not. This is for Notion users who want to publish a website while using Notion.
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intunderflowover 3 years ago
Nice stuff, what sets you apart from your competitors like <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;super.so&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;super.so&#x2F;</a> ?
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zoozlaover 3 years ago
Potion is an awesome project and Noah is a great guy. Been paying him for a while with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;softdiscipline.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;softdiscipline.com</a>, not planning to stop any time soon.
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gavin_geeover 3 years ago
Whilst there will be lots of folks who complain at performance - its not as if notion is designed to be the backend api for a website, but i have to believe that continuing to drop the barrier to entry even below wix and squarespace has to increase the addressable market for this. I for one still get frustrcted at the level of effort for wordpress, wix and squarespace. could this really be used as the main website for a company, perhaps not but there are lots of other uses like documentation sites that could be interesting use cases
shoto_ioover 3 years ago
What&#x27;s the thing about notion anyway? Can someone explain what I am missing out on and how it compares to other tools out there like google docs?
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orliesaurusover 3 years ago
Don&#x27;t take this the wrong way, it must be scary to do a Show HN, so high5 to you, but...what&#x27;s the appeal of this over a Carrrd, Wix or Squarespace which already has a good UI &#x2F; drag and drop editor and has all the redundancy, SEO compliance and user access management in-built?
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rbalazsiover 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve been following Noah&#x27;s journey on Twitter for some time, and I really like his short sneak peek videos on new features. This tool is just awesome!
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steventeyover 3 years ago
Have been following Noah&#x27;s progress with Potion for a while now, happy to see that it&#x27;s getting the recognition it deserves here on HN!
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tgibbover 3 years ago
The onboarding flow gives me pause - I&#x27;d like to check the speed &#x2F; perf w&#x2F; my content before signing &#x2F; paying.
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okhumanover 3 years ago
Keep going and keep building!! &lt;3
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rikelmensover 3 years ago
... that sock over the mic :)
steveklabnikover 3 years ago
Thank you so much for this. I have wanted it for a long time. Not gonna sign up today, but let me just file a todo here...
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katsuraover 3 years ago
Off, but is that a sock on the mic? Fun. :D
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replwoacauseover 3 years ago
Does Potion support formulas?
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bverksover 3 years ago
Following your journey on twitter, great work guys!
brundolfover 3 years ago
How does this compare to, for example, Squarespace?
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goforbgover 3 years ago
Nice