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How to learn mathematics: the asterisk method

350 pointsby VitalyAnkhover 3 years ago

23 comments

babuskovover 3 years ago
I did this during university, but made it much more efficient. I wrote a program that would work like this:<p>- while reading, instead of copying, the software would ask me to enter &quot;facts&quot; in form of questions with the most important piece of knowledge being the answer. I would type the question and the answer into the software - much faster than writing anyway<p>- after I have gone through all the material, I would start the Q&amp;A part of the software, which would ask me all the questions in either random order or sequentially (it was an option).<p>- at first, it would only show the question and wait for a key press to show the answer. After the answer was shown, I could mark whether I knew the answer or not. If not, it would mark that question to be asked in the next loop. This is basically the same as the asterisk method.<p>- once I got through all the questions, it would go into next pass, asking only those questions that I didn&#x27;t know the answer to. And then filter out the remaining ones, and loop again and again until the all answers are known.<p>- then I would restart the whole system with all the questions to check.<p>What I learned after using this for about 2 years, is that there&#x27;s a short term memory problem. Often I would know some of the answers on the first pass, but a week later I might forget it.<p>I found a way that works much better: Even if you mark that you know the answer, it will come up once again in the next pass. If you mark that you know it twice in a row, only then it would be removed. For some reason, this made the knowledge stick much better.
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spekcularover 3 years ago
This is not bad advice, especially for people new to proof-based mathematics. (I&#x27;ve noticed more mathematically experienced people do something like the linked method intuitively, without writing things down.)<p>But, it&#x27;s only half the story. After you learn the definitions and theorems, you have to learn how to apply them to do computations and solve problems. This means working at least a few &quot;easy&quot; problems to learn how to crank through rote computations, and a few harder ones to learn how to think through novel applications.<p>If you can&#x27;t solve problems with the material you&#x27;ve supposedly learned, you haven&#x27;t actually learned it. (Otherwise, what did reading all that stuff really accomplish? You picked up some cool vocabulary words?)
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kamaalover 3 years ago
&gt;&gt; 3. Start copying the relevant part of the book or the lecture notes to a (paper) note-pad by hand.<p>When I started learning to code. I remember people would buy the famous books and do an intellectual dive into them.<p>As for me I bought &#x27;SAM&#x27;s Learn C in 21 Days.&#x27; Then for the next one month like a dumb bot I would just read the code and type it out on my desktop. Religiously. Like wake up everyday spend significant part of the day just to read and write code into the editor and run it. Most of the time I had a hazy understand of what I was doing.<p>But surprisingly this approach worked better than the intellectual fantasising exercise(Most of my friends quit after a while). I&#x27;ve used this technique of using dumbest possible method to study anything useful in everything I&#x27;ve touched since. Including workout and fitness.<p>Over the years I&#x27;ve also wondered why it works. One reason is when you just wake up everyday and do this ritual, you are basically spending time with the subject. Add a month or two to this journey it&#x27;s now a habit. Even though your understanding is relatively poor, you haven&#x27;t quit at a point most people quit. You are comfortable doing work in the subject and therefore you are already scoring wins everyday. This not only builds confidence, it will eventually take you to higher levels.<p>Turns out the hardest part of learning and doing anything is sticking with a subject for long. Once you have practice the hard parts become easy.
paulpauperover 3 years ago
Unrelated, but I am curious about the splash page and redirect. Is this good enough to thwart spiders without having to use Google&#x27;s captcha? Making pages un-crawlable is a major topic of interest. I read that it&#x27;s very hard to do nowadays.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.geometry.org&#x2F;human&#x2F;?i=&#x2F;tex&#x2F;conc&#x2F;mathlearn.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.geometry.org&#x2F;human&#x2F;?i=&#x2F;tex&#x2F;conc&#x2F;mathlearn.html</a>
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graycatover 3 years ago
Students should not assume that all mathematicians try to learn all the material thoroughly.<p>Instead, in practice, even among good mathematicians, there is a fairly wide range of how carefully they study and how well they learn some material.<p>So, it&#x27;s possible and common (1) to get mostly just an overview, and even the overview can be at various levels of thoroughness, (2) try to get the main ideas of the most important points, (3) think about the material mostly just intuitively to build good intuitive models that can be the basis of more in learning, applications, research, (4) deliberately go over the material more than once with only the later passes quite thorough. In short there is more than one way to slice an onion.<p>Here is what did me the most good: First get an overview, i.e., what is the material really <i>about</i>? Second understand the details, say, after reading a definition, theorem, or proof, be able to write it down. Third, look back and get a relatively succinct, intuitive overview, <i>model</i>, that keeps all or nearly all the important content.<p>Uh, of the five Ph.D. qualifying exams, I got the best in the class on four of them. For my research, (a) for a paper I published and (b) for my dissertation, I did all the work with essentially no faculty direction. For the research, sure, needed to understand enough low level details of some material, but the real key was intuitive models that led to, permitted guessing, the original math with theorems and proofs.
lordnachoover 3 years ago
The issue with this is it requires a fairly mature metacognition from the student. We&#x27;ve all fooled ourselves into thinking we understand something, only to be shown a question we can&#x27;t answer later on. With some maturity one gets into the practice of asking the right illuminating questions, but it&#x27;s a painful journey at times. It&#x27;s also made harder of there&#x27;s a lot of time pressure, eg if you are studying a bunch of courses at the same time.
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k__over 3 years ago
I noticed a great overlap in learning math and programming.<p>Programming was easier for me to learn and now helps me to understand math a bit better.<p>Coding a real project is the equivalent to math&#x27;s proofs, I think.<p>The book &quot;Badass - Making Users Awesome&quot; says, learning something just requires two steps. Perceptual exposure (of hundreds of correct examples) and deliberate practice.<p>I think, math falls short in the first step, and I don&#x27;t know why, but somehow mathematicians often see much part of syntax&#x2F;grammar as a given, and use different ways to describe the same thing (sqrt and power of 1&#x2F;2, for example).
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Cthulhu_over 3 years ago
Learning to learn is such an important skill that a lot of people just miss. Speaking for myself and I think my brother who was unfortunately labeled &#x27;gifted&#x27; at some point, learning came automatically - I just absorbed information - until it didn&#x27;t. During primary and secondary school, I never had to &#x27;knuckle down&#x27; and actually study.
steve918over 3 years ago
I’ve been doing this for 25+ years without knowing it had a name
hyperpallium2over 3 years ago
&gt; <i>Connections can only be made between ideas when they are in the mind to be connected.</i><p>This is probably true. I always used to try to understand to <i>avoid</i> the bother of rote learning... but the truth is, I probably examined it so intensively while trying to understand, that I rote learned without realizing it.
high_byteover 3 years ago
I love it. and it also applies to all kinds of learnings. I even love how the captcha is just a link.
blaeksover 3 years ago
&quot;First learn. Then understand. Insight requires ideas to be uploaded to the mind first.&quot;<p>Yes, our mind has a &#x27;backdoor&#x27; which is imho a slow write&#x2F;read&#x2F;breathe manifold we all can summon and it&#x27;s free (both as a freedom, and as a beer).
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j7akeover 3 years ago
Really great method! I think the hardest thing for me is to look back at the notes I have written and study the asterisks. I haven&#x27;t been able to develop good habits to &quot;re-read&quot; already written notes.
sureglymopover 3 years ago
This is great advice and it is definitely how i learn best too.<p>But what do I do if i don&#x27;t have the time necessary to do this always?<p>At my university i have 4 graded assignments i have to hand in every week and they always consume a lot of time. Between working on those there is barely any time to even study, except on the weekend, which by this method might be enough to study two subjects max. I feel like this works but not for the pace of a college degree.
timwaaghover 3 years ago
Copying stuff by hand or otherwise focuses you on writing not reading. Personally I felt experimentation with this method set me back in my studies.
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treeman79over 3 years ago
For me it’s been 20 years since college.<p>I tried taking a trigonometry couse. Something I aced in college. Some parts were easy. But I kept running into references that I could not remember.<p>Eventually I just had to back to pre-algebra. Most of it is trivial but I do keep finding things I had completely forgotten.
foxesover 3 years ago
And then you come across a baffling Russian paper that takes months to understand a single line.
jimmyvalmerover 3 years ago
Understanding maths is a marathon. It&#x27;s generally huh? at first, then holistic synthesis over many years. This depth-first, beating-one&#x27;s-head approach is definitely not the way.
bjarnehover 3 years ago
&gt; If you read something which is difficult to understand, stop and think about it until you understand it clearly.<p>Ahh, ok.
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jkhdigitalover 3 years ago
&gt; The mind is on the path between the eyes and the hands.<p>Killer quote.
visargaover 3 years ago
Sounds like the 3-pile method for flashcards.
tyiloover 3 years ago
I get a 410 Gone when visiting the page.
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xyz11over 3 years ago
I love that there&#x27;s a focus on improving learning methods in general and how it can apply to anything. Even captchas are utilized in a way that shows their potential when they&#x27;re given less of a burden!