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Ask HN: Advice dealing with Insurance denying Oncologist's recommendations?

6 pointsby glitcherover 3 years ago
My apologies for this not being directly tech related, but I know there are many people here on HN with domain expertise in a broad array of industries.<p>A family member is experiencing new symptoms that were the precursor to discovering their cancer originally. Unfortunately at diagnosis, they were already stage 4.<p>The oncologist ordered a specific scan, the insurance company denied it, and then required a &quot;peer to peer&quot; meeting with the doctor. They forced the doctor&#x27;s hand to accept a different type of scan, which at an earlier point of treatment had returned a false negative for us. And the process is also causing, and has caused in the past, delays to treatment in an extremely time sensitive situation.<p>What can I possibly do about this peer to peer theater? There is absolutely no way the insurance companies&#x27; &quot;peer&quot; knows the latest details about the ever evolving treatment the oncologist is using. And this &quot;peer&quot; certainly knows nothing about my family member&#x27;s specifics when it comes to their treatment history.<p>How is this stuff even legal? I googled around and found this disturbingly similar situation blogged by a Dr. Rick Boulay in 2017: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kevinmd.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;dear-insurance-doctor-not-peer.html<p>Then I stumbled upon an old New York Times article that quoted him, about how doctors are sometimes lying to insurance agencies in order to get the treatment their patients desperately need: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;06&#x2F;21&#x2F;well&#x2F;the-strategic-lies-of-oncologists.html (archive: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.md&#x2F;5lfkU#selection-505.42-505.45)<p>What the hell is going on? This is absolute madness.

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tiahuraover 3 years ago
My sympathies. I lost my dad to cancer 4 years ago, and my mom last week.<p>Your doctor rolled. I tell my clients all the time that doctors can’t fight insurance companies for every patient every time. They pick and choose, whether it’s the orthopedic in a work comp carpal tunnel case, or an oncologist wanting to try some new immunotherapy.<p>You should take this as a signal that your not your doctor’s priority.<p>My advice would be to go get a second opinion and see if another oncologist feels strongly that the scan is warranted.
lostdogover 3 years ago
There should be a way to go after the medical licenses of &quot;doctors&quot; who put profits above health.<p>I don&#x27;t have any suggestions for you. The only people happy with their insurance are those who have never tried to use it.
catlikesshrimpover 3 years ago
If you are only now discovering that the world is an unfair place, you had been fortunate.<p>This is the reason poor, colored, foreign people complain about privilege. Your life is worth as much as you can afford, everything else is a lie.<p>If you can afford traveling to a third world country to be tested, because the prices are lower, do so.
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Khelavasterover 3 years ago
Not enough lawyers comfortable bringing cases to court on commission.