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Facebook will let Kazakhstan government directly flag content it deems harmful

79 pointsby Turukawaover 3 years ago

16 comments

hwestiiiover 3 years ago
The only thing that matters to Facebook is money, and denying this mechanism to the Kazakh government, and the potential loss of the Kazakh audience, is simply a case of leaving money on the table to them.
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kerngover 3 years ago
So, now Facebook just throws the towel? Wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if they will do the same in China (to access the market) and why not the US also?<p>Something very troublesome is happening at Facebook.
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mensetmanusmanover 3 years ago
Would we rather have FB censor or our local representatives?<p>If your answer is ‘it depends on what the local representatives are doing’ then you are really asking FB to censor, whey they aren’t great at.
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bkoover 3 years ago
Isn&#x27;t the US already directly flagging problematic facebook content?<p>This was the response from White House press secretary Jen Psaki given on July 15, 2021:<p>&gt; MS. PSAKI: Sure. Well, first, we are in regular touch with these social media platforms, and those engagements typically happen through members of our senior staff, but also members of our COVID-19 team, given, as Dr. Murthy conveyed, this is a big issue of misinformation, specifically on the pandemic.<p>&gt; In terms of actions, Alex, that we have taken — or we’re working to take, I should say — from the federal government: We’ve increased disinformation research and tracking within the Surgeon General’s office. We’re flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation. We’re working with doctors and medical professionals to connect — to connect medical experts with popular — with popular — who are popular with their audiences with — with accurate information and boost trusted content. So we’re helping get trusted content out there.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mleverything.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;what-would-government-censorship" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mleverything.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;what-would-government-ce...</a>
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FridayoLearyover 3 years ago
I think that&#x27;s a good idea (edit: i can&#x27;t see why it&#x27;s <i>bad</i>). FB are caught between a rock and a hard place. Damned if they censor, damned if they don&#x27;t. Offloading the problem to the nearest government is more beneficial to everyone involved. FB was never about protecting free speech - it was about being a profitable enterprise, and why not?. The sooner this illusion falls away the better.
valdiornover 3 years ago
actually, this is a pretty interesting move by facebook.<p>* If they put themselves in the position of &quot;guardians of morality&quot; they will be steamrolled by the amount of content on their platform. Good enforcement would cost billions, automated methods suffer false positives and negatives. * Putting themselves in that position also makes them responsible for the content on their platform, opening them up to lawsuits and sactions. * Failure to enforce results in being banned from countries altogether.<p>the alternative, which I haven&#x27;t thought of before now, would be &quot;fine, here&#x27;s some admin controls for your countries. Now you can hire some people and moderate content as you like&quot;. This seems like a pretty brilliant move. No longer are facebook responsible for bad moderation, each government is. FB also save themselves a ton of money.<p>Will this be better or worse for consumers in the end? I&#x27;m actually not sure. There are actually some valid upsides to delegating moderation to the governments of the world.
cblconfederateover 3 years ago
Sophie Zhang has been asking for parliaments to give her a hearing. Apart from a minor committe in the EU parliament her relevations (which are far more serious than the other FB revelations; people are dying here) have received little attention.
throwawayseaover 3 years ago
Philosophical question: does it matter whether the people doing the flagging the content are governments or activists or employees? To me it seems like a marginal difference. Yes I understand there is a power differential in that a government typically has an army and a monopoly on use of force. However, the effects of censorship are just as strong whether the policies are pushed by a centralized authoritarian government or a decentralized web of motivated political activists. The best FB can probably do is to allow free speech maximally within the bounds of their local jurisdiction.
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LurkingPenguinover 3 years ago
&gt; The statement quoted Facebook’s Regional Public Policy Director, George Chen, as saying the company hoped the measure would help the government deal with harmful content in a more efficient and effective manner. <i>He said the company was working with Kazakhstan particularly on “online safety for children”.</i><p>I&#x27;ve always wondered how people who lie for a living feel.
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mercy_dudeover 3 years ago
How is it different than letting the “experts” mostly comprised of DC establishment “fact check” like they do those here?
AzzieElbabover 3 years ago
They should do the same in the US. At the very least the government is bound by some rules while censoring
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oliv__over 3 years ago
It&#x27;s sad to see that they have no spine. It&#x27;s not like they&#x27;re hurting for the Kazakhstan market, why not send a message?<p>Ah but who am I kidding, this is Facebook. The &quot;they trust me. dumb fucks&quot; company
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unnamed76riover 3 years ago
Profits over people, always.
denton-scratchover 3 years ago
Wow. The Facebook footgun just doesn&#x27;t stop firing.
yostrovsover 3 years ago
If the government of Kazakhstan gets this kind of tool, why not the US? What is this Kazakhstan anyways, to get powers our elected leaders don&#x27;t?
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literallyaduckover 3 years ago
How would this work in America. Would you want Trump flagging harmful content? Would you want Biden flagging harmful content. Is a government still by the people and for the people when the oligarchy tells the people what to think, say, and believe?
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