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Superfast military plane hit Mach 20 before crash

97 pointsby danbergerover 13 years ago

13 comments

stcredzeroover 13 years ago
This is exciting, because it opens the door for space elevators that don't rendezvous with a stationary point on the ground, but with hypersonic planes.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-rocket_spacelaunch#Hypersonic_bolus_.28HASTOL.29" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-rocket_spacelaunch#Hyperson...</a><p><a href="http://www.enotes.com/topic/Tether_propulsion#HASTOL_.E2.80.94_Earth_launch_assist_rotovator" rel="nofollow">http://www.enotes.com/topic/Tether_propulsion#HASTOL_.E2.80....</a><p>This puts the tensile strength necessary into the realm of existing high-strength polymer cables.<p>If we could build a robust fully-reusable space plane that can go Mach 15, and we could also find a way to rendezvous it with a rotating tether, we could free ourselves from the nastiness of the rocket equation and achieve inexpensive space access.
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jasonwatkinspdxover 13 years ago
The most significant difference between this prototype and existing ICBM technology is that the reentry vehicle has more lift and less drag.<p>It's counterintuitive, but re-entry vehicles are typically bluntly shaped because it reduces the heat load on the nose cone by pushing the bow shock further out in front of the craft. The downside of this is higher drag and less lift, so ICBM warheads fall more than they glide.
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vlover 13 years ago
&#62;The HTV-2 is part of an advanced weapons program called Conventional Prompt Global Strike, which is working to develop systems to reach an enemy target anywhere in the world within one hour.<p>Wait, but don't ICBMs have like 40 min strike time for any target in the world since, like, sixties? (Ok, in the sixties they couldn't aim this fast).
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prawnover 13 years ago
I know they're very different beasts and in completely different situations, but it's still interesting to remember that Voyager 1, using 30+ yo technology, is currently going about three times as fast as this plane.
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JoeAltmaierover 13 years ago
SO the worlds highest-bandwidth network protocol just went from a 747 full of thumb drives, to this scramjet full of thumb drives!
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adrianwajover 13 years ago
That plane will render anti-ballistic missiles useless and make possible long-range targeted assassinations.
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wbhartover 13 years ago
Some months ago I observed an object crossing the sky at night from Coventry UK. It crossed the entire extent of the sky in about 2 seconds. It was very high up and had a red glow like that of a jet afterburner. It didn't fade out or change brightness as you might expect of a meteor and wasn't white as you'd expect of a satellite. I wondered at the time if someone was testing a very fast military vehicle. It would be interesting to know what various nations are working on.
andrewcookeover 13 years ago
does anyone know if they had telemetry to the thing (which is difficult because of the plasma, but used to be possible at least at shuttle speeds from the tail)? or are they hoping some kind of black box survived? and if they had no telemetry is this report inferred from observations of the flight (only)?<p>[related - does the telemetry problem mean that if something like this ever went into production, it would be largely autonomous?]
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jchrisaover 13 years ago
It looks like the spaceship from Flight of the Navigator.
bluesmoonover 13 years ago
Wait. 3 minutes at Mach 20 will get you from SFO to PDX easily, though I suppose it will take longer than that to take off and land.
edge17over 13 years ago
I thought they couldn't find the plane after it was lost? Did they find where it came down?
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moleculeover 13 years ago
What ordinance and yield is it designed to deliver?
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InclinedPlaneover 13 years ago
Keep in mind that this vehicle was just for collecting data, a conventional rocket did the work to accelerate it to mach 20. There's nothing the HTV-2 can do other than decelerate and maneuver.