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Netherlands judge rules Samsung Galaxy S, S II violate Apple patents, bans sales

171 pointsby bondalmost 14 years ago

16 comments

yaixalmost 14 years ago
What's with the headline?<p>Samsung does not violate Apple patents, it just violates one patent.<p>And sales are not banned, they are just to be banned (in more than a month's time), if Samsung does not make changes.<p>But it made me click through, which is probably what all those inaccuracies had been introduced for.
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kayoonealmost 14 years ago
This is so ridiculous. I cant decide between a S2 and a Iphone 5 anyway but this makes me lean heavily towards the Samsung device. Patenting the way to unlock a phone via dragging an image ? God, i need to puke.
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danieldkalmost 14 years ago
Given that the ban starts only on October 13 and Android 3.0 does not violate the relevant patents (according to Dutch news sites). Couldn't Samsung just update the firmware in the meanwhile to change the behavior of touch-based photo browsing to whatever Android 3.0 uses?<p>Edit: according to the judgment summary the Galaxy Tab does not violate said patents.
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pkandathilalmost 14 years ago
There were the violations by Samsung of the Apple patent:<p>EP 2,058,868 - method of scrolling / browsing gallery;<p>EP 2098948 - recording a "flag" in connection with multiple screen taps, of which Samsung would use the system by using Android 2.3 or later version;<p>EP 1,964,022 - method of "unlocking" of a portable device through the touch screen an "unlock image" in a way to drag.<p>Patenting phone unlock and how to browse through pictures is a douche move.
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SnowLprdalmost 14 years ago
From an ethical perspective, I find Samsung's inability to innovate and subsequent willingness to carbon-copy the iPhone and iPad to be reprehensible and wrong. It's sad that Samsung seemingly can't come up with much original on their own.<p>From the perspective of fostering general innovation in the marketplace and increasing the greater good, software and design patents need to go bye-bye. Apple's just playing the game according to the current rules, and the current rules really need to change.
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jwnalmost 14 years ago
Can anyone speculate on the likelyhood of Apple getting such a ban enacted in the US? If it looks impending I want to order one before it happens.
krelianalmost 14 years ago
If there is any chance that this will lead to some people in power realizing the ridiculousness of it all then it was all worth it.
goombasticalmost 14 years ago
Companies should make phones completely without an OS and allow people to load them up with the OS of their choice. Something like Cyanogenmod on a blank phone would be awesome.
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epagaalmost 14 years ago
Seems like the violations are software-only (slide to unlock for example), so an Android update by October 13 should solve their problem...or am I missing something?
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IsaacLalmost 14 years ago
International law is something I'm trying to improve my knowledge of. Can someone explain why it is that a judge in the Netherlands can block the sales of the Samsung Galaxy throughout Europe?
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kenyan_komualmost 14 years ago
Guess what I just invented a new way of opening my kitchen door, just press it with your butt. Now I'm going sue the remaining of you 5, 999, 999, 999 humans. Seriously though they say that the thing with th gallery is the default in android 2.3. So it is more like they are suing google? Its it time google sued someone for violating the mobile phone patent they acquired from motorola? they can do it in a small country like Nicaragua, u know, just to send a msg of intent
davedxalmost 14 years ago
Original FOSS article: <a href="http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/dutch-court-orders-eu-wide-preliminary.html" rel="nofollow">http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/dutch-court-orders-e...</a>
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iamdavealmost 14 years ago
So does anyone know if Samsung's decision to bring Cyanogenmod aboard was prompted by the events leading up to this? Any links/reading/conjecture on the matter?
reddit_clonealmost 14 years ago
Didn't apple do a blatant rip off of Android notification center concept?<p>I didn't see any outrage from Apple fanboys then.
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Astrohackeralmost 14 years ago
Patent laws should be ignored. Run your company pseudonymously, and violate patents all you want. No one will be able to stop you.
Jun8almost 14 years ago
I think this will be a minority report but:<p>Although I hate Apple's heavy-handed approach to this, I also like the message that this sends to Asian companies, who have quite a cavalier approach when it comes to "borrowing &#38; adapting" the designs and innovations from others. The list is long and is by no means limited to Apple: Routers from Cisco, phone designs from Motorola, etc. etc.<p>It may be impossible to properly enforce copyright and trademarks in China and other neighbors but at least this shows that Europe may be a different battle ground.
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