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Ask HN: Has Facebook always been this buggy?

6 pointsby ogwhover 3 years ago
Long story short over all these years I never bothered with Facebook. It turns out some hobby groups only exist on there, so I created an account about a week ago.<p>I&#x27;m shocked at how buggy the Android app is for such a large tech company with so many years and so much money being thrown at engineers. I hear on HN about massive 6-7 figure salaries yet their main product barely works.<p>Some of the bugs I see every time I use the app are:<p>1) App randomly closes<p>2) Hiding suggested group posts says they won&#x27;t show me that again... Followed by endless pages of posts from those groups<p>3) Closed suggested friends reappear as soon as I reopen the app<p>4) Pressing the back button sometimes closes the app instead of going back a screen<p>5) The bar to sort posts randomly appears when scrolling then disappears just as quickly with no known way to get it back<p>6) Tapping notifications doesn&#x27;t scroll to the comment referenced, half of the time it&#x27;s not even in the list<p>And overall just constant confusion because nothing seems to do what you expect.<p>It&#x27;s almost as if the app is actively trying to prevent the user doing what they want.<p>So I wanted to know if Facebook has always been this bad at UX and execution but people just put up with it or is it a recent phenomena? Or perhaps Facebook has become so widely used that no regular user even notices, like when you take a shit but don&#x27;t notice how bad it smells because your brain filters it out?

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killtimeatworkover 3 years ago
It&#x27;s the same for most of the FAANG giants. The Amazon Prime Video app for Windows is basically unusable (frequently lags, stutters, crashes). Google Drive Windows app frequently crashes (or crashed, I think they replaced it with something else recently). Apple&#x27;s iTunes was always a confusing mess. Microsoft&#x27;s Windows 10 is obviously a giant failure in terms of UI if nothing else (because half of the functionality uses old Win7 UI style, the other half uses the new Win10 style - and for many features, some aspects of the feature are found in the old Win7 window, while other aspects in the new Win10 window...). Uber&#x2F;UberEats - what a mess (my user experience on their website showed everything that is wrong with using &quot;eventual consistency&quot; approach to data).<p>The one tech giant that is IMO delivering a product that meets minimum quality bar is Netflix. I&#x27;ve never seen a bug in their service. Having said that, what they do is simple compared to what other tech giants do, but then again, even a audio&#x2F;video streaming service can be completely screwed up (see Windows app for Amazon Prime Video).<p>In general, software development is very hard and the way these companies do it - with a team of always-new engineers (few people stay on a team for more than 2-3 years and thus few people understand what&#x27;s going on on a deeper level), with apparently little testing - is not conducive to quality products. [1] Also, the recent trend of microservices means basically companies have given up on delivering a cohesive, tested product - instead every team if deploying their crap to prod and hope they don&#x27;t introduce bugs that break downstream consumers - and downstream consumers protect against that with failover in circuit breakers etc. It&#x27;s basically as if the companies admit that they don&#x27;t know how to do cross-team coordination, quality assurance etc. and every team is fending off for themselves.<p>[1] IIRC someone from Microsoft openly admitted that the reason for why they decided to make Win10 a Frankenstein with two different UIs stitched together was that nobody understood the Win7 code any more (relevant people changed teams&#x2F;left company), so any rewrite to use Win10 widgets was out of question.
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fspacefover 3 years ago
I’m afraid this is a recent development in Facebook mobile and sometimes in web applications. I think after the recent hack&#x2F; takedown it has gotten worse.<p>Facebook has definitely apologized for its bugs and has its best engineers working on the problem.
cblconfederateover 3 years ago
AFAIK it s super heavy, desktop included. And keep in mind that the vast majority of people who use it use cheap, not high-end android phones. Their web isn&#x27;t better either, barely usable in a low end desktop. They don&#x27;t care though, the users keep returning for other reasons so there is no incentive. Only whatsapp seems to be optimized.