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Americans Need to Learn to Live More Like Europeans

18 pointsby jacobbudinover 3 years ago

6 comments

finite_jestover 3 years ago
The article utterly sucks. It&#x27;s essentially a clickbaity rendition of the banal rant about American consumerism.<p>The arguments are poorly constructed, even when there is a point to be made. The sentence &quot;Americans haven&#x27;t always acted like this. We&#x27;ve entered an age of overabundance.&quot; is followed by a a graph showing that Americans consumed more than major European countries at least since 1990. (And I don&#x27;t think that graph is purchasing power parity adjusted)<p>Apart from the confusing graph, most of the numbers in the article don&#x27;t have a corresponding European version for comparison.<p>What has happened to the Manhattan Institute? I kinda thought their senior fellows were better than this.
animal_spiritsover 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve thought a lot lately about how American&#x27;s don&#x27;t have the benefit of living somewhere that has been continuously inhabited (by non-nomadic people) for thousands of years. I can&#x27;t go have fun in a local town center because I literally have no local town center. Living in the middle of suburbia as a youngster means everything within walking&#x2F;driving distance is paved and closed by 9:00pm. There isn&#x27;t much to do except spend time inside and to make it enjoyable we buy things to spend time with.<p>I would have loved to live European-ish but I wish it was more practical than it seems.
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abheek_vimalover 3 years ago
The data should also take into account average income or something similar. A quick search in Wikipiedia[1] shows that average wage in the USA is $65k, and the UK is $47k, a ratio of ~1.38. Before the pandemic, the consumption per capita ratio for these 2 countries was ~1.33. Basically, people who earn more tend to spend more but not disproportionately so. So the actual trend is not as extreme as that plot makes it out to be.<p>This is not to say that there isn&#x27;t an underlying problem.<p>[1] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_countries_by_average_wage" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_countries_by_average_w...</a>
quantifiedover 3 years ago
That title is a non-starter for so many Americans. Any such shifts need to be sold without reference to foreign lands.
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omosubiover 3 years ago
I largely agree with the author, but why isn&#x27;t the ire directed at the companies that offshores everything in the first place? We&#x27;d be in a much better position if we hadn&#x27;t outsourced the manufacturing of all our most most needed items to china I&#x27;m the past 30 years
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tamaharborover 3 years ago
One of the wonderful things about America is that anyone is free to up and move to Europe whenever they want.
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