So, after Nov 30th (today), you can no longer board planes, trains, or pretty much any other type of transportation to leave the country, if you are not vaccinated.<p>The US has also blocked their border to the unvaccinated, so anyone not vaccinated in Canada is pretty much a prisoner.<p>Just curious what everyone's thoughts are on this. Not looking to start any fights, but I do think this is getting a bit crazy.<p>And if anyone knows of any other way to leave the country, I'm all ears. My family is strongly considering leaving the country to go somewhere else, where we're not treated like second class citizens.
> anyone not vaccinated in Canada is pretty much a prisoner.<p>They can't block US nationals, and they don't.<p>> U.S. citizens and Lawful Permanent Residents (LPRs) who are eligible to travel but are not fully vaccinated will need to provide proof of a negative COVID-19 test one (1) day before their flight’s departure.<p><a href="https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/ea/requirements-for-air-travelers-to-the-us.html" rel="nofollow">https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/...</a><p>It appears for canada there are many exceptions to this policy. I noticed the "If Canada is Not your Final Destination" here<p><a href="https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/domestic-travel#exceptions" rel="nofollow">https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/domest...</a>
Assuming that Omicron (or the next variant) is more contagious than Delta, then pretty much everybody who's not a hermit will either be vaccinated, recovered/recovering or dead in the next couple of years. Possibly more than one of these categories, unfortunately. That said, why not improve the odds for you and others AND reduce the ability of the virus to spread to naive hosts...<p>And if you don't like any of the current vaccines, then you're certainly not going to like the disease itself. The goal is to keep people out of hospital and to build up sufficient resistance to (hopefully) turn COVID into a bad flu or better. It seems too variable to go away at this instant - we've not gotten rid of flu but it's been less fatal.
You could charter a boat?<p>You could also take the ferry to Newfoundland and then one to St. Pierre and Michelon, ie France and fly out of there. I don't know if France has restrictions.<p>I definitely disagree with the situation as well, but it's a global problem, better to stay and try and change things.
Of course it’s horrifying, especially since these actions are supported by a majority of the population.<p>There are a few countries with little or no entry restrictions. Mexico in particular is fairly close to Canada and is open. If you are able to work remotely, I’d strongly suggest looking into it. Canada is not going to change its policies anytime soon, sadly.<p>I’m not sure what the restrictions are, but can they actually prevent you from leaving if you are flying internationally? What about for a medical or other “official” purpose?<p>Edit: seriously scary that this post is flagged. Not cool.
This is great.<p>IMO, selfishness and knee-jerk reactions to a very, VERY serious pandemic will only serve to prolong lockdown measures, however you feel about them.
> So, after Nov 30th (today), you can no longer board planes, trains, or pretty much any other type of transportation to leave the country, if you are not vaccinated.<p>Even inside the country from what I understand. Free movement is no longer a right it seems.<p>Keep in mind that the current leader's father decided to suspend constitutional rights (because that's a thing over there!?) for dubious reasons back in the 70's. So it's not exactly new.
John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute. Discussing vaccination restrictions has lowered your social credit score and you are now also banned from owning firearms. Oh wait, that's already the case in Canada. All joking aside, Canada is looking more fascist every day. I would be doing anything possible to leave, if I were a resident of that nation.
<i>> Just curious what everyone's thoughts are on this. Not looking to start any fights, but I do think this is getting a bit crazy.</i><p>I agree it is getting crazy. I think there's a big push by governments around the world to get vaccine passports introduced world-wide [0]. Perhaps it's part of The Great Reset as proposed by Klaus Schwab? I am not sure ...<p>Either way, the vaccine passports are pointless for various reasons. Also, even though the USA and various EU countries might want to force vaccines upon their citizens, at the same time there's very little concern on the vaccination status of illegal immigrants. At least in various countries in Europe and Australia there's been large protests recently against vaccine passports and forced vaccinations. You might not find much info about the protests in big media and YouTube, but you can find videos of these protests on alternative media.<p>I believe everyone that values freedom should take part in these demonstrations. Once governments have introduced vaccine passports, it will be extremely difficult to get back to a world without and it will limit the freedom of you and your children. These vaccine passports will be a major step for Western societies towards becoming totalitarian states like China.<p>I live in Thailand and as of yet things aren't too bad here, but once I see this country move towards forced vaccinations, I really want to leave with me and my daughter and I was considering Mexico as well in that case. My girlfriend probably would find it too difficult too leave, so in that case we'd have to make some hard choices ...<p>---<p>[0]: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_uAwsVn10Y" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_uAwsVn10Y</a>