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The 40th anniversary edition of Codex Seraphinianus

215 pointsby dsr12over 3 years ago

27 comments

Izkataover 3 years ago
Huhm, the one that came to mind for me is <i>&lt;blue&gt;House&lt;&#x2F;blue&gt; of Leaves</i>, though I guess it&#x27;s only 21 years old. It&#x27;s (almost) fully legible English, but the pages are all sorts of messed up: Text goes forward, backward, sideways, meanders outside standard directions (including through the page), the footnotes span multiple pages and have their own multiple-page footnotes (all telling multiple storylines in parallel) (also one of the footnotes is editing the book as you read it), there&#x27;s one section written in a simplistic code...<p>There&#x27;s some pictures of the pages of this book in these reviews:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cornerfolds.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;08&#x2F;book-review-house-of-leaves-by-mark-z.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cornerfolds.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;08&#x2F;book-review-house-of-leav...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stingingfly.org&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;01&#x2F;house-leaves-mark-z-danielewski&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stingingfly.org&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;01&#x2F;house-leaves-mark-z-danie...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.horrorbuzz.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;09&#x2F;13&#x2F;house-of-leaves&#x2F;#" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.horrorbuzz.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;09&#x2F;13&#x2F;house-of-leaves&#x2F;#</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thefeedbacksociety.com&#x2F;television&#x2F;house-of-leaves-the-screenplay&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thefeedbacksociety.com&#x2F;television&#x2F;house-of-leaves...</a>
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throwaway81523over 3 years ago
Article is pretty cool, and the book itself is amazing. The book is Codex Seraphianus, by Luigi Serafini, to save some of you a click. Apparently there is a new 40th anniversary edition with a few new pictures out now, but I think if you have an older edition you are fine.<p>I bought a used copy through AbeBooks (a book finding service) in the late 1990&#x27;s after hungering after it for years. It cost $300 used back then, which seemed insane, but I&#x27;ve never regretted it. Some years later another edition came out for $150 or so, which is a downright bargain. I don&#x27;t know if that one is still available.<p>AbeBooks still sends me about 1 notice per week 20+ years later whenever another copy becomes available. I could of course click the link to get them to stop, but receiving them makes me smile even though I have a procmail rule directing them to a special folder that I only look at occasionally. In internet terms, it seems like an unreal amount of time.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Codex_Seraphinianus" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Codex_Seraphinianus</a>
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AussieWog93over 3 years ago
Weirder than Hiroyuki Nishigaki&#x27;s seminal &quot;How to Good-bye Depression: If You Constrict Anus 100 Times Everyday. Malarkey? or Effective Way?&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;How-Good-bye-Depression-Constrict-Everyday&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0595094724" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;How-Good-bye-Depression-Constrict-Eve...</a>
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ornelover 3 years ago
&quot;Umberto Eco and Roland Barthes were unavailable for comment&quot; I want to believe that is some dark sarcasm by the article&#x27;s author
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GhettoComputersover 3 years ago
This isn’t the Voynich manuscript. It’s not weirder than that one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Voynich_manuscript" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Voynich_manuscript</a><p>Very artistic though. It is whimsical and full of drawings but gets a bit too much credit: LoTR has multiple real languages. The lore is even too dense, but it’s not weird? These drawings are fantastic and seem very “80s”. Maybe he will be a director like he wants to be and make something like the holy mountain.
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krisoftover 3 years ago
I clicked on the article thinking to myself: this surelly will be the usual journalistic overreach and clickbait, but let’s see how their choice of weird compares to the Codex Seraphianus.<p>Turns out that is the book they wrote about. Now I wonder if there are other such weird gems I haven’t had the luck to hear about yet.
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vanderZwanover 3 years ago
&gt; <i>Umberto Eco and Roland Barthes were unavailable for comment.</i><p>Well yes, they&#x27;re dead.<p>EDIT: look, I&#x27;m not a native English speaker, so maybe am I misunderstanding something about how to use the expression &quot;... were unavailable for comment&quot; in general, but I find it very strange to apply it to two people who passed away. It sounds as if the author means to imply that that&#x27;s no excuse for them to not respond.
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rbrtdrmpc-over 3 years ago
Haven’t read the article, but being italian and a Serafini aficionado, the funniest thing is that when his book became known worldwide a lot of fakes started to be available (mostly chinese) and he started collecting them just to be surprised about how good they were (just a few to be clear)
smoldesuover 3 years ago
My cousins had a copy of this book sitting on the coffee table at their lake house. Being a good bit more affluent than my own family, I remember being too afraid to ask them what it was... good times.
carapaceover 3 years ago
See also Woodring.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Jim_Woodring" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Jim_Woodring</a>
Kaibeezyover 3 years ago
Is this a manifestation of synesthesia?<p>Serafini is quoted as saying: <i>&quot;Because it&#x27;s a memory of, I don&#x27;t know, ages ago. I was in Salzburg one summer just to follow two or three operas of Mozart. And I don&#x27;t know why but one day I saw that I was making a different drawing with colors. It was connected with Mozart, but I didn&#x27;t know that [yet].&quot;</i><p>Compare to one of many random descriptions of synesthesia: <i>“In addition to feeling the sounds of musical instruments on her body, Crane sees letters and numbers in brilliant hues. And for her, units of time each have their own shape: She sees the months of the year as the cars on a ferris wheel, with July at the top, December at the bottom.”</i> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apa.org&#x2F;monitor&#x2F;mar01&#x2F;synesthesia" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apa.org&#x2F;monitor&#x2F;mar01&#x2F;synesthesia</a><p>Is he drawing what he sees? Any synesthetes available to comment?
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inasioover 3 years ago
I still look at the pages have a vague sense that the text might not be just gibberish; for a while I wanted to run it through openCV to map all the different characters and do frequency analysis...<p>The page numbering scheme does make sense though, I once looked at it in detail and I forget exactly what it was, but runs something like base 20
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fumeux_fumeover 3 years ago
This book holds a special place in my heart. I remember reading about it in the literary magazine The Believer about 15 years ago. At that point in time, the only way to explore the book was to find a rare used copy for a reasonable price. I finally found one (real nice Abbeville First American Ed from 1983) for $250 from Strand Books. I was over the moon. I loved flipping thru it randomly and showing it to friends and acquaintances. When I quit my job I sold it to help pay for school and living expenses. Fortunately, many new editions are available now; making it easier for more people to discover his work.
flenserboyover 3 years ago
Amazing book — I spent hours with it back in college, in part to make sense of it, but mostly to enjoy it. Glad to know the author is still at work!
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Jun8over 3 years ago
Even the 40th year edition is a bit expensive at approx $100. For a similarly weird book at less than half the price I’d suggest this one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hypnerotomachia_Poliphili" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hypnerotomachia_Poliphili</a>
lelandfeover 3 years ago
For those that enjoy this, you&#x27;d probably also love the game Hylics (and its sequel, Hylics 2). Mason Lindroth made what is essentially a claymation fever dream of an RPG.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=TgNUgeEryCM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=TgNUgeEryCM</a>
eeccover 3 years ago
Nice.<p>Can anyone recommend an industrial or engineering design illustration book?<p>I remember them in my youth, about tractors or airplanes.
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ggmover 3 years ago
My partner had a copy in her second hand bookshop back in the eighties. It was unsellable. You have to have a long view with some books, $300+ now.
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amznbyebyebyeover 3 years ago
Just bought a copy so cool to see this on HN. It has just the right mixture of engineered weirdness for me
ricardobeatover 3 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.md&#x2F;oKgGs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.md&#x2F;oKgGs</a>
tedivmover 3 years ago
I have a copy of this (not a first edition) and it&#x27;s an amazing piece of art.
zzzbraover 3 years ago
Speaking from personal experience, it makes for an excellent Christmas present.
HPsquaredover 3 years ago
The script looks similar (to me, someone who understands neither) to Georgian.
doe88over 3 years ago
Is there an english edition? Or maybe an audiobook on Audible.
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amznbyebyebyeover 3 years ago
Any other books in this genre of weird?
swissfunicularover 3 years ago
Thanks for the recommendation
charlieyu1over 3 years ago
found the isekai protagonist