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Wolfram Cloud

135 pointsby itchyjunkover 3 years ago

8 comments

throwaway950qover 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve always found Wolfram Alpha surprisingly unhelpful and impossible to integrate into an enterprise application in a meaningful way in practice. This is an interesting paradox, I sometime call it the Wolfram paradox, here is what I mean:<p>Their platform is so sophisticated that it produces output in a non-deterministic format depending on your search terms. Therefore, if you want to consume their service by leveraging the full smartness and cleverness of their platform, your consuming application needs to be equally smart and clever if you want to do anything more useful than displaying their raw output in an iframe. This means that you&#x27;d have to re-implement non-trivial parts of their platform.<p>The only way to solve this problem would be to restrict your input to a fix format to make their output more predictable. But at that point you&#x27;d in practice rather use a more specialized (and much less expensive) solution. The only use case I can see for this is either very complex computations for which either no other vendor exists, or requiring so much resources to run that their platform is the most convenient option. Or alternatively the interactive use case to iterate on a solution as part of R&amp;D, which I believe is the main way people use their products.<p>This is not a shocking limitation per se, but their marketing messaging has long been suggesting that they have a vision where developers will heavily use the power of their platform to build a wide range of real world applications both in the consumer and enterprise space. My point is that this will never happen because of the aforementioned paradox. They have built an incredibly smart solution, but it sorts of have a curse by design preventing it from moving out of the interactive niche.
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monkeybuttonover 3 years ago
Has anyone here used Wolfram Cloud? Itchy junk, have you? What was your experience?<p>I have some experience from a few years ago with the self hosted version but I haven&#x27;t had anyone to compare notes with since then. Ultimately it was more cost-effective for us to migrate to Python and jupyter lab.
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iancmceachernover 3 years ago
Has anyone here used Wolfram Alpha for something meaningful?
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ChrisArchitectover 3 years ago
Is this <i>new</i>???? or is it just the root domain they host alot of their other product info pages&#x2F;data sites on.<p>I&#x27;m thinking it&#x27;s at least 5 years old maybe more with some variations between public and enterprise products along the way.<p>You just found this randomly?
maltalexover 3 years ago
What does the <i>Basic plan</i> include? How does it compare to a paid plan?
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atilimcetinover 3 years ago
I think this is amazing. I&#x27;m using wolfram alpha a couple times a day but sometimes I need to use proper wolfram language instead of wolfram alpha query. Even if they allow a single notebook for the free tier, I would be more than happy.<p>(I still couldn&#x27;t find more information about what basic&#x2F;free tier includes.)
malikerover 3 years ago
Data expiration: &quot;With a Cloud Basic plan, any files will expire 60 days after their creation.&quot; I&#x27;ve lost a couple notebooks due to this. Kind of like ransomware, yeah?<p>Then I looked at their pricing[1] to maybe get those notebooks back. 3 different product lines, 4 different tiers per product, then 5 or so prices depending on student&#x2F;home&#x2F;professional&#x2F;govt. No idea how to navigate all this.<p>I used to be a big Mathematica user about a decade ago, but with everyone in industry using Jupyter now and Wolfram&#x27;s weird new product strategy, I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;m going back.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;account.wolfram.com&#x2F;upgrade&#x2F;wolfram-cloud?theme=wolfram-cloud" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;account.wolfram.com&#x2F;upgrade&#x2F;wolfram-cloud?theme=wolf...</a>
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htkover 3 years ago
&quot;The Wolfram Cloud combines a state-of-the-art notebook interface with the <i>world&#x27;s most productive programming language</i>&quot;<p>Quite the statement there, does anyone here have more info on this claim?
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