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Fashion, art cycles are driven by counter-dominance signals of elite competition

144 pointsby hncuriousover 3 years ago

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eightysixfourover 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve been reading Graeber&#x27;s final book, &quot;The Dawn of Everything,&quot; and in it he makes&#x2F;repeats the observation that many cultures in contact with each other end up defining themselves as &quot;not-the-other-culture,&quot; which he called (and I think others call) cultural schismogenesis.<p>I think you can genericize it a bit and say humans are bad at defining themselves and need a reference point, and they often take the opposite stance of that reference point. I think this model fits in with that pretty well - there are groups who want to be &quot;not-the-elite&quot; which, if successful, the elite adopt. Classic &quot;hipsterism.&quot;<p>It also fits in with a lot of local, national, and global politics, market differentiation, etc.
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optimalsolverover 3 years ago
Worth a read:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Circulation_of_elite" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Circulation_of_elite</a>
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waingakeover 3 years ago
This is Hegel’s Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis. Not a new idea! <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;link.springer.com&#x2F;referenceworkentry&#x2F;10.1007%2F978-1-4020-8265-8_200183" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;link.springer.com&#x2F;referenceworkentry&#x2F;10.1007%2F978-1...</a>
beebeepkaover 3 years ago
This was a surprisingly good read, even if a bit long.<p>Their observations align with my own - it&#x27;s all about standing out. Me different because me better. Or vice versa. Same thing
aszantuover 3 years ago
as an artist I just always think: okay I like this style, and I want something like it, but I absolutely don&#x27;t want to copy, so I change it so it can&#x27;t be recognized as &quot;theft&quot; later.
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j-bosover 3 years ago
At the risk of touching a nerve, this concept reminds me of the crypto&#x2F;nft hostility.
adamgordonbellover 3 years ago
Slate star codex has a very fun and nerdy explanation of fashion cycles.<p><pre><code> Let’s explain fashion using cellular automata. This isn’t going to be cringe-inducingly nerdy at all! </code></pre> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slatestarcodex.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;04&#x2F;22&#x2F;right-is-the-new-left&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slatestarcodex.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;04&#x2F;22&#x2F;right-is-the-new-left&#x2F;</a>
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crawfordcomeauxover 3 years ago
This tracks with how I&#x27;m changing the art I embody&#x2F;make. A driving intention I carry is to bring about a future where all people have the 0-payment option of living in a community where everyone&#x27;s committed to meeting all needs while denying none, practicing a culture that&#x27;s learned from and let go of cultural components of debt, capitalism, imperialism, colonialism, preferentialism (a culture of catering to preferences), democracy, domination, violence, punishment&#x2F;reward, racism, sexism, rape, adultism, ageism, and maybe all the other isms.<p>Any government, including human beings who identify as nations, can signal they&#x27;ve shifted to practicing such a culture by adopting the following symbol and integrating it into their symbology:<p>∀<p>This is the mathematic notation for the phrase &quot;for all.&quot; A government that&#x27;s operating on a model to meet all needs while denying none can signal this by including this symbol in their art, like flags, seals, etc.
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d883kd8over 3 years ago
Ugh they got j and k mixed up on page 3
shadowgovtover 3 years ago
As the old line goes, &quot;Revolution is never justified... Unless you win.&quot;