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Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944)

387 pointsby bobbiechenover 3 years ago

47 comments

dundariousover 3 years ago
A notable excerpt that I often see in quotation:<p>(11) General Interference with Organizations and Production<p>(a) Organizations and Conferences<p>(1) Insist on doing everything through &quot;channels.&quot; Never permit short-cuts to be taken in order to expedite decisions.<p>(2) Make &quot;speeches.&quot; Talk as frequently as possible and at great length. Illustrate your &quot;points&quot; by long anecdotes and accounts of personal experiences. Never hesitate to make a few appropriate &quot;patriotic&quot; comments.<p>(3) When possible, refer all matters to committees, for &quot;further study and consideration.&quot; Attempt to make the committees as large as possible — never less than five.<p>(4) Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.<p>(5) Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, resolutions.<p>(6) Refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to re-open the question of the advisability of that decision.<p>(7) Advocate &quot;caution.&quot; Be &quot;reasonable&quot; and urge your fellow-conferees to be &quot;reasonable&quot; and avoid haste which might result in embarrassments or difficulties later on.<p>(8) Be worried about the propriety of any decision — raise the question of whether such action as is contemplated lies within the jurisdiction of the group or whether it might conflict with the policy of some higher echelon.
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dangover 3 years ago
Past threads:<p><i>Simple Sabotage Field Manual</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=26293804" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=26293804</a> - Feb 2021 (1 comment)<p><i>CIA&#x27;s Declassified 1941 Simple Sabotage Field Manual</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23316292" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23316292</a> - May 2020 (1 comment)<p><i>Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) [pdf]</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22322041" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22322041</a> - Feb 2020 (89 comments)<p><i>Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) [pdf]</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15109771" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15109771</a> - Aug 2017 (32 comments)<p><i>The CIA’s 1944 Simple Sabotage Field Manual (2015)</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12253276" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12253276</a> - Aug 2016 (64 comments)<p><i>Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944)</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10493881" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10493881</a> - Nov 2015 (68 comments)<p><i>How to make sure nothing gets done at work</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10393485" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10393485</a> - Oct 2015 (3 comments)<p><i>Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944)</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4831363" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4831363</a> - Nov 2012 (67 comments)<p><i>From CIA: Timeless Tips for &#x27;Simple Sabotage&#x27;</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4243649" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4243649</a> - July 2012 (3 comments)<p><i>WW2 &quot;Simple Sabotage Field Manual&quot; declassified [pdf]</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=905750" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=905750</a> - Oct 2009 (6 comments)<p><i>OSS (pre-CIA) Simple Sabotage Field Manual</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=833443" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=833443</a> - Sept 2009 (29 comments)
eprover 3 years ago
Chatting with my gf, we came up with a new section (mostly her):<p>=== General Inquiries ===<p>- Answer a question other than the one being asked. Feign misunderstanding.<p>- Give incomplete answers. Do anything you can to almost but not completely answer the inquiry .<p>- Delay answering as long as possible.<p>- Answer with a question.<p>- Request more information than required to answer an inquiry.<p>- Attempt redirection to other people or resources.<p>- Involve as many people as possible<p>- Rebuke the inquirer when they follow up on a previous unanswered inquiry within an arbitrary time window (days, not hours).<p>- When asked multiple questions, answer only only of them, ignoring all others. Wait to be prompted to answer each question individually.<p>- When asked multiple questions, answer the least important or time sensitive question first.<p>- Ignore all information provided besides the single question being answered.<p>- Prefer slower or more onerous communication methods 1. snail mail 2. email 3. text messaging 4. audio call 5. video call 6. in-person meeting<p>- Mix multiple communication methods<p>- If contacted using a lower ranking method, upgrade.
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ripvanwinkleover 3 years ago
That honestly reads like the playbook that many mid level managers at some of the largest companies operate out of
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SquibblesReduxover 3 years ago
This one appears more complete: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.outpost-of-freedom.com&#x2F;library&#x2F;SimpleSabotageFieldManualOSS1944.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.outpost-of-freedom.com&#x2F;library&#x2F;SimpleSabotageFiel...</a><p>This reads like &quot;The Anarchist&#x27;s Guide to Bringing Down FAANG.&quot; (MAANG?)
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motohagiographyover 3 years ago
Maybe the post is a &quot;Parable of Lightening &#x2F; Kolmolgorov Complicty&quot; trap, but I would like to say what I think this is being used as source material for, and I won&#x27;t directly because there isn&#x27;t an easy way to make a comment on it without being antagonistic, but it&#x27;s important to recognize that there exists a manual of these organized tactics, produced by an organization that employed Herbert Marcuse, whose work is taught in every humanities undergrad in the western world, where their graduates largely go on to work in organizations appendant to the public sector.
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narratorover 3 years ago
D) Spend as much time as possible alleging and arguing about Code of Conduct violations committed by the most productive members of the organization. Hire permanent staff to disrupt meetings and other work with these allegations. Accuse those who refuse to enthusiastically support these accusations.
ohdannyboyover 3 years ago
This reminds me of the South Park where the kids had to become skilled at baseball in order to lose the game and go home sooner. The instructions are basically to be an incompetent manger at middle levels, inefficient bureaucrat high levels and a Karen at every committee. But instead of just being that archetype, you&#x27;re doing it carefully and methodically as a sabotuer.
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hpoeover 3 years ago
So I&#x27;ve seen this a couple of times and to me it make sense, but it also seems such a perfect indictment of organizational culture that I could see it being fabricated for laughs. Can anyone vouch for the authenticity of this?
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tommek4077over 3 years ago
Maybe all the CoC gladiators, trying to kill off FOSS are paid saboteurs?
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dredmorbiusover 3 years ago
Previous discussions:<p>5 years ago (64 comments): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12253276" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12253276</a><p>6 years ago (68 comments): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10493881" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10493881</a><p>2 years ago (89 comments): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22322041" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22322041</a><p>9 years ago (68 comments): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4831363" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4831363</a><p>4 years ago (32 comments): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15109771" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15109771</a><p>12 years ago (29 comments): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=833443" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=833443</a>
quickthrower2over 3 years ago
* Advocate strongly for microservices<p>* And redux &#x2F; sagas<p>* Rewrite in rust<p>* 100% test coverage or reject PR<p>* The most elaborate git workflow you can find<p>* Bonuses based on completed story points<p>* OKRs
mukundeshover 3 years ago
My Favourite &quot;Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, resolutions&quot;
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yakshaving_jgtover 3 years ago
For a moment there, I thought I was reading a document entitled <i>Agile in Practice</i>.
dpeckover 3 years ago
You would be hard pressed to find a difference between the approaches here and the ones in SAFe.
mayosmithover 3 years ago
CIA was established in 1947. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cia.gov&#x2F;about&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cia.gov&#x2F;about&#x2F;</a>
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hnthrowaway0315over 3 years ago
Would like to see field pages from GLADIO, would be really interesting, although I don&#x27;t suspect it&#x27;s going to be too different from this.
fouricover 3 years ago
Huh, most of these patterns appear regularly in US federal government workplaces...
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icambronover 3 years ago
I have a hard time believing that this isn&#x27;t at least in part a joke. It&#x27;s just too on-the-nose.<p>Either that or I have some very sharp questions for some former coworkers.
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mcguireover 3 years ago
Is this a sabotage manual or a course on management from a business school?
walrus01over 3 years ago
(6) A clean factory is not susceptible to fire, but a dirty one is. Workers Should be careless with refuse and janitors should be inefficient in cleaning. If enough dirt and trash can be accumulated an otherwise fireproof building will become inflammable.<p>you could apply this principle to information security&#x2F;network security practices as well... just neglect to patch things, use out of date methods, leave cruft and half-finished projects laying around, etc.
hirako2000over 3 years ago
I thought for a bit that the tactics were increasingly applied by many workers. sadly enough they aren&#x27;t applying planned coordinated actions, they just are so fed up with this so well rigged system they&#x27;ve decided that, perhaps unconsciously, sabotaging all they can is the best pleasure they can hope for.
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darepublicover 3 years ago
This is why I&#x27;m completely disenchanted with tech companies. I&#x27;ve seen billion dollar companies fumble basic shit too many times due to infighting and too many cooks etc. Managers who prefer to destroy any good thing that&#x27;s going on if it can&#x27;t be observed by them and watermarked as their intiative. This in turn has made me less hopeful about government and human civilization in general. The progress we&#x27;ve made has been the work of a few, not the many
akyuover 3 years ago
&gt;(8) If possible, join or help organize a group for presenting employee problems to the management. See that the procedures adopted are as inconvenient as possible for the management, involving the presence of a large number of employees at each presentation, entailing more than one meeting for each grievance, bringing up problems which are largely imaginary, and so on.<p>This is from the extended version. Feels really strangely relevant these days...
jamesmishraover 3 years ago
Technically the Simple Sabotage Field Manual is from OSS--the CIA&#x27;s predecessor.<p>The Manual is one of my favorite pieces of historical literature, but I think that people become <i>too</i> cynical about large organizations after they read the manual. It is important to understand how coordination can slow down or fail, but becoming cynical only makes the problem worse.
ajsnigrutinover 3 years ago
This is how our government workers work all the time!<p>Sadly, most of them are not even paid by some foreign superpower.
TedDoesntTalkover 3 years ago
In what context was this to be used?
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riazrizviover 3 years ago
This pairs well with the late David Graeber&#x27;s <i>Bullshit Jobs: A Theory</i>.
soheilover 3 years ago
That was from 80 years ago, but it is the state of many engineers employed at Silicon Valley companies. I wonder what techniques CIA uses today that will be the norm in 2100.
justicezyxover 3 years ago
These are excellent indicators of team negator type of employees. I&#x27;ll be using this to find them and fire those depending how bad the committed these activities...
otterleyover 3 years ago
This also reads like how to run a modern cable news network.
najqhover 3 years ago
Funny that this is posted under cacert.org, an organisation whose big accomplishments during its long lifetime were... getting hacked.
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imwillofficialover 3 years ago
OSS is not the CIA. Pleas correct the headline.
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mrlonglongover 3 years ago
Perhaps we should translate this into Mandarin and Korean to aid the democratisation process in China and North Korea ...
pksebbenover 3 years ago
reading through this, and my tinfoil hat tells me this would make a more effective psyop than a manual. you create something like this, &quot;lose&quot; a copy where enemy decision makers can get a hold of it and bam, now the other guys are eating enormous resources on a slew of red-herring mole hunts.
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ravenstineover 3 years ago
My favorite variation of this is the &quot;Freedom Fighters Manual&quot; that was supposedly used by the CIA to subvert the communist regime in Nicaragua back in the 80&#x27;s, as it has some funny illustrations presented like a comic book.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.org&#x2F;details&#x2F;freedomfightersm00unit&#x2F;page&#x2F;n3&#x2F;mode&#x2F;2up" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.org&#x2F;details&#x2F;freedomfightersm00unit&#x2F;page&#x2F;n3&#x2F;m...</a>
wayanonover 3 years ago
Is this a satire on business today?
jonplackettover 3 years ago
Boris Johnson has been reading this too closely.<p>That Peppa Pig Speech is starting to make more sense.
rahimialiover 3 years ago
how would an invading force defend itself against this form of domestic sabotage? is the only defense to make incompetence tantamount to treason and prosecute it as a crime?
dqpbover 3 years ago
Wait… is this satire?
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dmixover 3 years ago
Now watch the proceedings of &quot;The US Socialist Convention&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=bX9FgvXZXZ8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=bX9FgvXZXZ8</a><p>I&#x27;m not it&#x27;s its CIA sabotage. Mot to mention the longer full stream was immediately taken down by the organizers out for fear fear of mean words on the internet being said about them.<p>But the ideology inherently pushes towards so many of these listed (self-)sabotage tactics it almost doesn&#x27;t even need it.
vtripolitakisover 3 years ago
Looks like Greek public sector to me.
taurusnoisesover 3 years ago
Aka &quot;How to be a White Male in Society&quot;. (as someone who is one, I can attest this was my socialization)
meatsauceover 3 years ago
Reminds me of my last job.
redleggedfrogover 3 years ago
My CEO must be using this.
fnord77over 3 years ago
x) complain about cat breed discrimination
hourislateover 3 years ago
I would like to add the following to this manual.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;solaire.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;software-engineers-simple-sabotage" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;solaire.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;software-engineers-simple-sab...</a>