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Wordle

76 pointsby jamespwilliamsover 3 years ago

19 comments

bumbledravenover 3 years ago
You could write a bot to minimize the <i>worst-case</i> number of guesses by using a minimax-style tree search with a zero-sum two-player perfect-information version of the game. Here&#x27;s how that could work.<p>There are two players, Guesser and Responder, who share a dictionary of words. Responder starts the game by stating a positive integer N, where there is at least one word of length N in the dictionary. The turns then alternate between Guesser and Responder. Guesser proposes any dictionary word of length N, and Responder then provides feedback on each letter in the word (i.e., right letter in wrong place, right letter in right place, wrong letter) such that at least one N-letter word in the dictionary is consistent with all the feedback given so far.<p>The game ends when Responder indicates that Guesser&#x27;s word is correct in all places, or after responder has provided feedback 6 times, whichever comes first. If Guesser never guessed the word, Responder gains 7 points. Otherwise, responder gains a number of points equal to the number of turns taken by Guesser.<p>Alternatively, the bot could minimize the <i>expected</i> number of turns using an expectimax (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Expectiminimax" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Expectiminimax</a>) search, under the assumption that the hidden word was chosen uniformly at random from the set of all dictionary words of the same length.
sreggover 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve built a mobile version: - iOS: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;wordus&#x2F;id1602940346" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;wordus&#x2F;id1602940346</a> - Android: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.sregg.wordus" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.sregg.word...</a>
petercooperover 3 years ago
Someone recently tried to work out what starting word would give you the best head start with this game: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bert.org&#x2F;2021&#x2F;11&#x2F;24&#x2F;the-best-starting-word-in-wordle&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bert.org&#x2F;2021&#x2F;11&#x2F;24&#x2F;the-best-starting-word-in-wordle...</a>
voisinover 3 years ago
Why only one play per day? You have the user’s attention and if they want to engage further they have to wait an arbitrary time (depending on how close it is to the following day), and during that break any manner of things will occur that may distract the user into forgetting to ever come back.
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taurusnoisesover 3 years ago
Well, I&#x27;m hooked. Love the clean design, and actually appreciated how minimal the directions were and the time it took to figure it out at first. That feels like part of the game somehow. And, I like that. Great work!<p>Ps, got it in 5
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Vinnlover 3 years ago
Fun fact: this concept is also the basis for a game show on Dutch national TV. I took part two years ago, and spent way too much time optimising our strategy: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vincenttunru.com&#x2F;hacking-a-gameshow&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vincenttunru.com&#x2F;hacking-a-gameshow&#x2F;</a><p>(Discussed on HN at the time: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21796347" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21796347</a>)
kralljaover 3 years ago
My word had a repeated letter, which doesn’t feel sporting.
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Vivtekover 3 years ago
For anybody that needs it, you can toggle a colorblind mode in the gear-icon setup screen. I was very confused until I realized I couldn&#x27;t tell whether my correct-but-out-of-place letters weren&#x27;t actually in the right place.
adenozineover 3 years ago
I got it in 3, but I feel very lucky for doing so. What a nice concept!<p>I&#x27;d love to see a head-to-head version of this, where I could wager against my opponent each turn. I know some very &quot;wordy&quot; friends that would really enjoy trying to outguess and outbet one another.<p>Suppose we could just use two ipads and accomplish the same thing.<p>Anyhow. lovely game, thanks for posting!
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memalignover 3 years ago
Cool game with a nice clean UI! There used to be a game show with a great name, Lingo[0], that combined this Mastermind-style word guessing with Bingo.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lingo_(American_game_show)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lingo_(American_game_show)</a>
NoboruWatayaover 3 years ago
Interesting game. At the start it seems like an impossible feat but the information you get from even the first couple of guesses can drastically reduce the range of possible solutions.<p>I got it on the fourth try but it felt like dumb luck. I&#x27;ll have to try again tomorrow to see if it was.
l0b0over 3 years ago
Third try, nice! Does anyone know of an open source version of this, like Lexica[1]?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;f-droid.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;packages&#x2F;com.serwylo.lexica&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;f-droid.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;packages&#x2F;com.serwylo.lexica&#x2F;</a>
ximengover 3 years ago
A game inspired by this one but not limited to one play a day showed up on HN recently (to some apparent controversy):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29534860" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29534860</a>
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jimbob45over 3 years ago
Got it on the sixth try. That’s a fun game but I was confused by the design at first. Numbering each guess might have eased my confusion quicker.
eka1over 3 years ago
I don&#x27;t get it, how do I play this?
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minaguibover 3 years ago
First guess was &quot;black&quot; Second guess was correct It feels too lucky
euroderfover 3 years ago
My last guess was jewry, but it&#x27;s not in the word list ?!
hawthornioover 3 years ago
That was fun! I struggled very hard but got it on the fifth try
matthewfcarlsonover 3 years ago
A fun mashup between mastermind and a crossword