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Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

183 pointsby sahil50over 3 years ago

25 comments

petertoddover 3 years ago
&quot;In the Jan of 2009 when Hal and Satoshi were working on Bitcoin Alpha version, Hal encountered an error with the software and he posted the debug log to the mailing list.&quot;<p>The &quot;dox&quot; assumes that only three people were using Bitcoin at the time, and thus one of them must be Satoshi. That&#x27;s a bad assumption, as Bitcoin was publicly available at that time, and was announced on the public cryptography mailing list, and we know for a fact that a few people tried it out early on.<p>The IRC initial seeding mechanism was _not_ mandatory to use, let alone full time. So it wouldn&#x27;t be surprising at all if Satoshi wasn&#x27;t using it.<p>&quot;This is not a TOR exit node which implies that this is the IP address used by Satoshi on 2009-01-10 and he was in Van Nuys on this day&quot;<p>It&#x27;s not a TOR exit node in 2016, when this article is published. That doesn&#x27;t tell us anything about 2009.
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drawkboxover 3 years ago
Van Nuys, Los Angeles, CA was where the IP was located.<p>&gt; IP Address: 68.164.57.219<p>&gt; IP Block: 68.164.57.128 – 68.164.57.255<p>&gt; Reverse DNS: h-68-164-57-219.lsan.ca.dynamic.megapath.net<p>&gt; Host: Covad Communications. Van Nuys, CA, USA<p>&gt; Location: Van Nuys, CA, USA<p>Could have even been something like Satoshi wasn&#x27;t on his normal setup at the time and it slipped through. Maybe on vacation or a wireless connection that connected near there. Or the IP lookup was even slightly off and they were in Sherman Oaks or anything really. Sometimes even wireless connections can appear to come from an entirely different state based on the network. The IP could have also been spoofed or temporary.<p>Covad Communications was the 16th biggest ISP at the time and then &quot;Covad was acquired a by private equity firm, Platinum Equity, in April 2008. In 2010, it was sold to U.S. Venture Partners, which merged Covad, and Speakeasy into MegaPath.&quot; [1]<p>It appears when this IP connected (Jan 2009) it was owned by the private equity firm Platinum Equity [2].<p>The IP was definitely logged in Los Angeles, beyond that it could be anything.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Covad" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Covad</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Platinum_Equity" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Platinum_Equity</a>
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anm89over 3 years ago
I feel like Hal Finney and Nick Szabo were the two people who seem plausible and the fact that Hal and Satoshi were on different IP addresses that day seems to me like it&#x27;s not Hal.<p>So for me it feels pretty much settled that Satoshi is Szabo.
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pseudalopexover 3 years ago
2016 article. 2009 leak.
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tsywke44over 3 years ago
Is there a term for this, where a person discovers something extremely interesting, but doesn’t know the proper channels to make the knowledge public?<p>In this case, releasing the info on a random spammy looking WP blog.
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joseloyaioover 3 years ago
It&#x27;s Nick Szabo.<p>He uses his initials for his Pseudonyms (N.S)<p>Nakamoto Satoshi = Bitcoin<p>Nicolas Saberhagen = Monero
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DantesKiteover 3 years ago
It’s pretty remarkable he’s been able to keep secret for this long.
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misiti3780over 3 years ago
Doesnt this mean that somewhere, buried deep in a a database, someone can run a query to see who had the IP address on that day, and assuming it is a private residence there is at least a chance that is SN?
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pdevrover 3 years ago
For whatever it is worth, Dorian Nakamoto (whom Leah Goodman claimed to be &quot;The Face Behind Bitcoin&quot;[1]) stays nearby - within the realm of possibility :)<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newsweek.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;03&#x2F;14&#x2F;face-behind-bitcoin-247957.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newsweek.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;03&#x2F;14&#x2F;face-behind-bitcoin-2479...</a>
TedDoesntTalkover 3 years ago
&gt; This is not a TOR exit node which implies that this is the IP address used by Satoshi on 2009-01-10<p>How do we know it was not a tor exit node in January 2009?
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servytorover 3 years ago
edit: krapp below me is right, I AM AN IDIOT. I just ran it through an anagram website and trusted it without even checking.<p>---<p>I always thought Satoshi Nakamoto was an anagram.<p>Antonomasias ~ Satoshi Nakamoto<p>Antonomasias: the substitution of an epithet or title for a proper name (e.g., the Bard for Shakespeare).<p>So it seems like a play on words, because Satoshi Nakamoto is a real name, and therefore a group might have wanted the creator to have a human name.
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paulsutterover 3 years ago
Anyone have an 2009 vintage geo-IP table? (the current mapping doesnt mean a lot)
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sktrdieover 3 years ago
I think of Satoshi as a genius for the invention. Unfortunately the invention is causing a global climate crisis. Similar to how Einstein&#x27;s laws helped create the atomic bomb.
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erik998over 3 years ago
I always thought it was J Orlin Grabbe<p>I figured he learned some lessons from Digital Monetary Trust during late 1990&#x27;s.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;James_Orlin_Grabbe" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;James_Orlin_Grabbe</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hermetic.ch&#x2F;crypto&#x2F;kalliste&#x2F;money1.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hermetic.ch&#x2F;crypto&#x2F;kalliste&#x2F;money1.htm</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hermetic.ch&#x2F;crypto&#x2F;kalliste&#x2F;money2.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hermetic.ch&#x2F;crypto&#x2F;kalliste&#x2F;money2.htm</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;page.math.tu-berlin.de&#x2F;~kant&#x2F;teaching&#x2F;hess&#x2F;krypto-ws2006&#x2F;des.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;page.math.tu-berlin.de&#x2F;~kant&#x2F;teaching&#x2F;hess&#x2F;krypto-ws...</a><p>His textbook &quot;International financial markets&quot; has some C++ code.<p>&quot;What forbids us to tell the truth, laughingly?&quot; — Horace, Satires, I.24.
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rshnotsecureover 3 years ago
The reverse DNS of the IP address mentioned is: h-68-164-57-219.lsan.ca.dynamic.globalcapacity.com according to SecurityTrails.<p>The article also gives the following information:<p>- HOST DETAILS: H-68-164-57-219.LSANCA54.DYNAMIC.COVAD.NET<p>- IP Address: 68.164.57.219<p>The IP address is within a &#x2F;16 block owned by Megapath, a Los Angeles hosting provider.
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ashwagaryover 3 years ago
How do we know that&#x27;s not the ip of a proxy or VPN?
mouzoguover 3 years ago
Isn&#x27;t there a guy literally called Satoshi Nakamoto, that lived near and friends with Hal Finney, in California.<p>I think SN was probably more than one person, and I do think it was built with government involvement. The doxxed Satoshi himself worked as a government contractor I believe.
mrkramerover 3 years ago
If you want to find out who Satoshi is follow the money. How he, she or they bought bitcoin.org domain and bitcoin.org hosting? Cash in mail, credit card or bank transfer. All things that are tracked and recorded somewhere in someone&#x27;s database or archive.
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rurbanover 3 years ago
So Paul Le Roux is out now as prime suspect. He was arrested 2012, and in 2009 he was still on the run, and certainly not in the US. More like in Brazil, Philippines or Hong Kong.
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zaxbeastover 3 years ago
Does the blockchain (or other miners) log the miner&#x27;s IP addresses? That&#x27;s why I don&#x27;t like to mine on my local network
zaxbeastover 3 years ago
Does the blockchain log the miner&#x27;s IP addresses? That&#x27;s why I don&#x27;t like to mine on my local network
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dot1xover 3 years ago
Satoshi is very obviously David Schwartz (Ripple). Check out his patents from &#x27;88.
deafsquid69over 3 years ago
The keys can move without the coins moving. Think of it like the ultimate Casascius coins. There&#x27;s no way to know whether or not Satoshi cashed out. I can&#x27;t find the thread, but I&#x27;m pretty sure Adam Back even said this on bitcointalk and said that that would be how he&#x27;d move the money if he were Satoshi.
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AcedJFover 3 years ago
34.168904,-118.455922
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eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7over 3 years ago
<i>EDIT: Please explain in the comments - because I seriously do not understand that - why on earth you are downvoting this!? You&#x27;re advocating something cruel. WTF? What is the problem about saying &quot;leave a person alone who apparently WANTS to be left alone?&quot;. You&#x27;re advocating stalking.</i><p>The people who trying to figure out who Satoshi is and make it public should realize this:<p>What they&#x27;re effectively doing is trying to completely destroy someone&#x27;s life just for them having written a piece of software.<p>Because then everyone will assume (<i>EDIT: not *know*, see the comments</i>) that the person is insanely rich. And beyond the glorification of being rich everyone forgets what it actually means:<p>You&#x27;re a prisoner of your money.<p>Want to go to a pub and have a beer? Not possible, you might get kidnapped or at least harassed by paparazzi.<p>Want to go outside for a walk? Same as above.<p>Want friends? Nope, how are you gonna find them if you cannot go outside? How can you trust anyone? Maybe they just want your money?<p>Of course, the rich can mingle among each other. But this very much limits your possible circle of social contacts, and there&#x27;s no law of nature which says that someone like Sathoshi might even <i>want</i> to be friends with Justin Bieber etc., or vice versa.<p>Hobbies? Only those you can do alone.<p>Want a girlfriend&#x2F;boyfriend&#x2F;spouse? See above.<p>Also as a bonus a large portion of the public will HATE you, no matter what you do. Just see how much HN hates crypto.<p>You might get tortured for money, lynched or whatever cruel imagination you can come up with. Enough people know you = anything is possible.<p>Satoshi apparently wants to be left alone so you should do just that.<p>They gave you a software for free which spawned a whole industry, they don&#x27;t deserve to be harassed for that. If you don&#x27;t like it then don&#x27;t use it, but don&#x27;t destroy the developer&#x27;s life. Nobody forces you to use it - and even if someone did then go harass them, not the developer.
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