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Show HN: No Signup, Yet, Authenticated Posts

44 pointsby publiushover 3 years ago

10 comments

skybrianover 3 years ago
Maybe it&#x27;s not technically a sign up, but the new user flow needs some work. There are boxes for &quot;handshake name&quot; and &quot;signature&quot; but no indication of what you should put there.<p>I tried leaving them blank and got an error message: &quot;You need to include a valid Handshake name and signature generated with the key associated with the name.&quot;<p>But it doesn&#x27;t explain how you do that.
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andrewstuartover 3 years ago
I once created a SAAS application that did not have the &quot;ordinary&quot; workflow that people expect these days - email&#x2F;password or social login.<p>People hated it and actually took the time to complain.<p>The lesson for me - make your auth process precisely what people expect - if there&#x27;s feedback, it should be about your product, not about the signup process.<p>Signup process is not a feature - it&#x27;s plumbing.<p>In the case of this new product &#x2F; service - I note the headline is almost unrelated to what the product does - it&#x27;s a headline about how the auth works on this - the technology something is built with shouldn&#x27;t be the marketing message.
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wongarsuover 3 years ago
From the name I was expecting something like image boards (think 4chan) where you can add a username to your post by specifying a secret, which will set your username to substring(sha(secret)). Instant authentication with no signup.<p>This isn&#x27;t that, instead it seems to delegate the registration to some Namecoin-like thing, and I verify my identity but signing the content with my secret key? Did I get that right? I guess the advantage of that approach are human readable user names
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kc10over 3 years ago
This isn&#x27;t truly no signup right? I only saw the handshake now, but isn&#x27;t my handshakeName+signature my new username and password for posting? Instead of having a centralized auth provider, the blockchain is used to authenticate the signature?<p>Just looking at Handshake - if I buy HNS and purchase a domain, sure I can use the handshakeName and signature to authenticate to supported websites. But if I want to host a website with the domain, the possible options are using hns.to domain or have my DNS point to a different DNS server. Both are not viable options for my end users to reach my website. Is the expectation that overtime Handshake gains popularity and all existing services would have a mechanism to integrate into this?
wccrawfordover 3 years ago
So is it just people shouting out to the void, and no way to respond to them? That makes it a neat tech demo, but doesn&#x27;t seem very useful as-is.
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sneakover 3 years ago
Is the domain brand (less than 24h) new? It&#x27;s not resolving yet for me (I have extremely new domains blocked via NextDNS).
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stavrosover 3 years ago
Semi-offtopic, does anyone know if I can hold my own Handshake domains (instead of using Namebase), perhaps with Ledger integration?
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dopidopHNover 3 years ago
I get a CRSF error on posting.<p>At the same time my login is not present in the handshake chain, that would make sense.
ramphastidaeover 3 years ago
What am I supposed to enter for the signature? Is there a help page?
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publiushover 3 years ago
I was browsing Handshake repos on github and noticed a pull request that added sign&#x2F;verify [1] on the Bob Extension [2] on Github. This piqued my interested, and of course, it was time to hack away again. The result is applause [3] which lets you post and applaud (sign) your and other people&#x27;s messages. This website does not require a login or signup because it uses the decentralized Handshake [4] blockchain.<p>It&#x27;s open source on github [5] and mixes Web 2 and Web 3 together causing some interesting benefits.<p>It supports drag and drop among other things!<p>Hope you like it!<p>MIT LICENSED! Do whatever you want with it!<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kyokan&#x2F;bob-extension&#x2F;pull&#x2F;15" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kyokan&#x2F;bob-extension&#x2F;pull&#x2F;15</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kyokan&#x2F;bob-extension" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kyokan&#x2F;bob-extension</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;applause.chat" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;applause.chat</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;handshake.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;handshake.org&#x2F;</a><p>[5] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;publiusfederalist" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;publiusfederalist</a>