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Where's Today's Beethoven?

2 pointsby zrkrlcover 3 years ago

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delgaudmover 3 years ago
This article left me a bit confused. After a perusal I couldn&#x27;t find a satisfactory set of criteria that defines a &quot;Beethoven&quot; beyond this vague bit at the top, which feels very hand-wavy.<p>&gt; Why has there been no one better in the last ~200 years - despite a vastly larger world population, highly democratized technology for writing and producing music, and a higher share of the population with education, basic nutrition, and other preconditions for becoming a great musician?<p>and from a footnote:<p>&gt;Beethoven&#x27;s music is &quot;great&quot; in at least two significant senses: (a) for nearly all listeners, it is enjoyable; (b) for obsessive listeners who are deeply familiar with other music that came before, it is &quot;impressive&quot; in the sense of demonstrating originality&#x2F;innovation&#x2F;other qualities.<p>a) in the footnote feels very, very selective in &quot;for nearly all listeners&quot;, and b) I&#x27;m not sure how &quot;impressive&quot;-ness is quantified, especially if obsessive listeners are required as a hurdle to clear to establish impressiveness as a barometer for a qualtifiable &quot;better&quot;.<p>What&#x27;s &quot;better&quot;? How is the author sure there is no one &quot;better&quot;? Who decided <i>that</i>?<p>What criteria makes someone better? Is it some combination of technical skill at the keyboard, compositional skill at &quot;the harmonic style of 18th century european music&quot;[0] ? Is it the Fame that is achieved as a result of writing famous, lasting compositions? It is the music&#x27;s complexity, or popularity? Does it have to be limited to so-called &quot;classical&quot; music, or music at all?<p>[0] Adam Neely&#x27;s excellent video &quot;Music Theory and White Supremacy&quot; feels like a must watch in the context of this article <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Kr3quGh7pJA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Kr3quGh7pJA</a><p>The article speaks to acclaim, by who? By what criteria? Do we need to compare &quot;<i>today</i>&quot; to &quot;<i>While Beethoven himself was alive</i>&quot;, or at least his reputation near after the time of his death?<p>And, how does the author know what will be considered &quot;better&quot; or &quot;acclaimed&quot; in 50, 100, or 200 years? There are certainly musicians as skilled, popular and prolific as Beethoven now. CErtainly there have been acclaimed, talented, prolific mucisian&#x27;s since Beethoven, right?<p>I mean, could Steven Sondheim be considered a &quot;Beethoven&quot; of today? Robert Johnson, Miles Davis, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon, Tosin Abasi? All innovators, all skilled, all prolific, all famous, all acclaimed ... all <i>better</i>? Today, who could say -- by what metric are we saying &quot;better&quot;? By what perspective? By whose opinion?<p>The charts were pretty, though.