The WWW was built to transport hypertext documents, which became interactive thanks to JavaScript. Since HTML5, increasingly complex webapps are being built, and daily on HN people complain about Electron & bloated frontend tech.<p>I think the web grew naturally to dominance, and in the process lots of work went into optimizing JS performance and building browsers into the huge runtime environments they are today.<p>My question is, what would it take to build a new web that aims to support highly interactive applications from the start? Something that provides a unified runtime across different platforms, loads lazily / needs no installs, and uses a more performant language with fewer pitfalls than JS. Bonus points if it is as open to user-side modifications as the current web.<p>I have a feeling that I just described Flutter; please share if something like this is being worked on.
Seems to me all that is just not the web.<p>HTTP has been bent into supporting something else, something new.<p>I would be happy to see that new thing built out properly.<p>That said, I really hate apps trying to replace text and comms. Fact is they generally have fewer features, pester me with mobile notifications (which, yes I do turn off more often than not), and give marketing a ton of data many would argue they just do not need.<p>And they are being pushed super hard! For best price get our app. To use your new appliance, get the app...<p>Right now, if it is not offered up to me via browser, there is a solid chance I will ignore it.<p>Say, just for shits and giggles, we rolled some of this back so the core focus really is information exchange. Or leave it for a time.<p>Instead of <a href="http://" rel="nofollow">http://</a> it is...<p>And start right there. Push out an RFC and declare this app space proper.<p>There is no need to replace the "old" web. It works just fine and its use case is as relevant as it ever was. I see it a lot like email. Works great and everyone is using it.<p>Replacing stuff tends to get real expensive real quick.<p>I entered the additive manufacturing space a while back. Love it. People making shit warns my heart.<p>The early message was replace and everyone pushing that has seen a lot of pushback. Manufacturing tech never really dies. Each tech form does a thing no other form can exceed.<p>What really happens is nature tech settles into its role where it performs in an exemplary way and we keep it so we do not lose real hard won experience and innovation.<p>When the message became an additive one in the literal sense, the conversations improved! Nobody wants to scrap high value tools. There is always someone making money in the core niche occupied by the tech.<p>Adding new tech makes much better financial sense.<p>The net is not that old yet.<p>Its youth makes this all hard to see, but I see no reason to believe we need to replace http.<p>Adding something new could make a ton of sense.