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Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for Covid-19 (Peer-Reviewed)

52 pointsby benpiperover 3 years ago

16 comments

anagram666over 3 years ago
This is an observational study, not strong enough to make any conclusions; The determination if a patient had taken ivermectin was self-reporting. There is no control of the dosage and how much time the patients took ivermectin before getting covid.<p>This is at best an indication of the need for better studies about the subject, but considering that Brazil&#x27;s president is rabid pro-ivermectin and this was made in a medium city in a region favorable at the president, take this with a grain of salt.
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ncmncmover 3 years ago
In interpreting this result, one should keep in mind that an active parasite infection produces worse results for respiratory infections of all kinds. Taking ivermectin reduces parasite load.<p>The size and location of the study suggests that reporting of COVID-19 infections was by presentation, meaning asymptomatic or minimal infections were probably not counted.<p>tl;dr: These results will probably not translate well to places without pervasive parasite infestation. Wearing an N95 mask has a much larger protective effect than taking ivermectin, in any case, even there.
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cosmoticover 3 years ago
This may look and smell like a peer reviewed study, but I cannot find any reliability rankings for the journal &#x27;Cureus&#x27;. Wikipedia article on Cureus is brief and it appears they allow anyone to publish. I would take this article with a few large grains of salt.
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rsfernover 3 years ago
For context, this journal uses crowd sourced open peer review, which is an interesting concept.<p>There’s one review, and it’s (IMO) not substantive. I would treat this as a preprint basically (not that you shouldn’t read peer reviewed studies critically either)
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JohnTHallerover 3 years ago
Parasites are a comorbidity of Covid-19. Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic. You&#x27;ll slightly improve your chances against Covid-19 by treating the parasites with Ivermectin so your body doesn&#x27;t have to fight those, too. Parasites are endemic in Brazil in the South where Itajaí is located and Ivermectin is in heavy usage pre-pandemic as a result.<p>We already knew this. This doesn&#x27;t apply outside areas with endemic parasites. It doesn&#x27;t apply here in the US.
SteveEMover 3 years ago
These authors have had one article retracted by the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine and another refuted by American Journal of Therapeutics. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;journals.lww.com&#x2F;americantherapeutics&#x2F;Fulltext&#x2F;2022&#x2F;02000&#x2F;Meta_Analyses_Do_Not_Establish_Improved_Mortality.11.aspx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;journals.lww.com&#x2F;americantherapeutics&#x2F;Fulltext&#x2F;2022&#x2F;...</a>
nojaover 3 years ago
Is this the &quot;if the subject is suffering from worms, then treating the worms allows them to fight the virus&quot; result? (So not relevant in the US)
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SteveEMover 3 years ago
These are the issues that limit ability to draw conclusions in this study: No pre-registration, No randomization, No blinding, No allocation concealment, No idea who did&#x2F;did not fill prescriptions, Prescription writing was based on &quot;judgement&quot;?!, No uniform follow up, No idea who was followed up or lost to follow up
whiskeyRangerover 3 years ago
&gt; SIQ™ is a predictive measure of scientific quality.<p>&gt; How can I improve my article&#x27;s SIQ™?<p>&gt; Telling your friends, colleagues and advisors to review the article on Cureus<p>&gt; Cureus offers a social media promotional add-on, or boost, for eligible published articles at an additional cost.<p>So this site is like PubMed but with payola?
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rootusrootusover 3 years ago
Makes sense in Brazil, but is it applicable to the US or other Western nations?
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tinus_hnover 3 years ago
Interesting. It’s not double blind and I’m not sure how practical this is but it does cast a lot of doubt on the conclusion that ivermectin doesn’t do anything unless the dose is lethal.
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Grismarover 3 years ago
Science on this is great. However, don&#x27;t parrot this to your friends until you see it replicated somewhere else (preferably somewhere not governed by ivermectin-peddling populists) and confirmed in a double-blind random-controlled trial (which this doesn&#x27;t even get close to). After all, no reason to hold this stuff to a lower standard than the anyone want to hold the vaccines to (regardless of whether they realise these standards were already met there).
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rajangdavisover 3 years ago
Why did this get flagged? It&#x27;s pretty measured in it&#x27;s findings:<p>These results indicate that medical-based optional prescription and citywide covered ivermectin can have a positive impact on the healthcare system. However, the present results do not provide sufficient support for the hypothesis that ivermectin could be an alternative to COVID-19 vaccines
LearnerHerzogover 3 years ago
I heard those researchers drank horse refresher (water). Can we really trust people putting horse refresher in their bodies?
b0skover 3 years ago
The supposed “hackers” keep pushing these pseudo scientific garbage in Hacker News for some reason
johngover 3 years ago
These seems like a pretty thorough study... is it OK for people to talk about Ivermectin now or are they still going to censor and ban accounts?
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