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The Birth of Rusty N Edie's BBS

87 pointsby bilegeekover 3 years ago

13 comments

bilegeekover 3 years ago
More info:<p>They were raided by the FBI[1][2] in 1993 and sued by Playboy[3]. It was later settled in 1998[4].<p>[1]<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;textfiles.com&#x2F;bbs&#x2F;r&amp;estory.txt" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;textfiles.com&#x2F;bbs&#x2F;r&amp;estory.txt</a><p>[2]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20050922215812&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pixi.com&#x2F;~irvdili&#x2F;page-23.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20050922215812&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pixi.c...</a><p>[3]<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.internetlibrary.com&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;Playboy-Russ-Hardenburgh-Inc.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.internetlibrary.com&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;Playboy-Russ-Hardenburgh-...</a><p>[4]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ia802900.us.archive.org&#x2F;1&#x2F;items&#x2F;gov.uscourts.ohnd.43071&#x2F;gov.uscourts.ohnd.43071.docket.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ia802900.us.archive.org&#x2F;1&#x2F;items&#x2F;gov.uscourts.ohnd.43...</a><p>Some vintage splash screens:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;defacto2.net&#x2F;g&#x2F;rusty-n-edies-bbs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;defacto2.net&#x2F;g&#x2F;rusty-n-edies-bbs</a>?
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cyberge99over 3 years ago
Oh man. I remember Rusty N Edie’s. I was a pre-teen just exploring the online world. The Demo scene was being born, music and was collecting MOD files and of course, the games. There were wholesome fidonet on-ramps and BBSes too.<p>I’ll never forget those first modem days of a teenager discovering the world.<p>Back then you had something in common with anyone on the BBS just by virtue of being on a BBS.<p>Young me would be proud of the geek I still am today.
pessimizerover 3 years ago
95% of the porn I downloaded when I was 12 was watermarked with these two names.
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icedchaiover 3 years ago
I remember seeing ads for this BBS in &quot;Boardwatch&quot; magazine, back in the day (early to mid 90&#x27;s.) I was really into the BBS scene but didn&#x27;t do much long distance calling.<p>We had several local warez boards, many of which masqueraded as more legitimate operations. Typically you registered with a regular account, then sent the sysop a private message that so-and-so referred you and mentioned the warez.<p>I ran a BBS myself but was more into the H&#x2F;P scene.
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acheronover 3 years ago
I remember regularly driving past the computer store in Boardman or Youngstown or whatever with the “home of Rusty n Edie’s BBS” sign out front.<p>I called it a few times but it was never one of my regular ones, despite being active on several other BBSs in the area.
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nsxwolfover 3 years ago
I only just now realized it&#x27;s Edie and not Eddy. My Berenstain Bears moment here. I swore it was &quot;Rusty and Eddy&#x27;s&quot;, and I never called it because it just didn&#x27;t sound as cool as something like &quot;The Hell Pit&quot; or &quot;Nun Beaters Anonymous&quot;.
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dangover 3 years ago
Anybody know what year this was written?<p>A related past submission:<p><i>Rusty and Edie&#x27;s BBS seized by the FBI (1993)</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27007938" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27007938</a> - May 2021 (1 comment)
pan69over 3 years ago
&gt; 128 (one for each node) 16Mhz 286&#x27;s.<p>Geez. I wonder what their electricity bill was in those days.
dccoolgaiover 3 years ago
Rusty N Edie&#x27;s was perhaps the biggest and most well-known BBS of the era. Iirc it had declined somewhat before the fact, but &quot;the raid&quot; kinda marked the end of the &quot;BBS era&quot;.
anonymousiamover 3 years ago
Heh. &quot;1200 baud was the best money could buy and on sale for only $279.00!&quot;<p>I bought my first 1200 baud modem for more than twice that! The Hayes Smartmodem 1200 was $599 at the time of my purchase. It was a great upgrade from the Novation D-Cat (300 baud) modem that I had been using.<p>I seem to remember that BBS operators were given a significant discount by the modem vendors. This makes good sense because it drives product demand.
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justinlloydover 3 years ago
Nowhere near the setup this couple had, but in my indiscrete youth I ran a multiline BBS &quot;back in the day,&quot; from 1982-ish to 1996, until finally retiring it due to switching countries for work. At the end it ran on an Amiga 2000 though the BBS was hosted ona few different machines over the years prior. A couple of modems (2400 baud, then Miracom 9600, then 14.4K and finally US Robotics 56K), with a couple of gigabytes of SCSI drives. The BBS also offered a &quot;telnet portal&quot; whereby during certain hours of the day I placed a call to the local Uni that gave me an Janet connection, which could then be reached from anybody else on Janet, or the Internet if they could gateway in, to the BBS itself over dial-up. With that Janet gateway the BBS could host a few dozen people before it became overloaded, though of course, file transfers for anybody coming in via the Internet&#x2F;Janet gateway were slower than molasses in a Minnesota winter.<p>Interestingly I had two features on this BBS that were prescient in a way. People with two modems &amp; phone lines, or access to the Janet&#x2F;Internet portal, could trade bits of files via a modified Zmodem protocol, the BBS acting as a warehouse tracking who had what bits. I later used that same protocol to trade warez on the warez scene FTP I ran for several years. I did say my youth was somewhat indiscrete.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;justinlloyd.li&#x2F;blog&#x2F;multipass-protocol&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;justinlloyd.li&#x2F;blog&#x2F;multipass-protocol&#x2F;</a><p>And the BBS also offered a way where you could post short 128 character messages, what I called &quot;quick chat&quot;, on the front page wall, and people could respond to your post with their own 128 character message, &quot;follow you&quot; (alerting) so they would see your messages at the top of the wall whenever they logged in, or just block you because you were annoying.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;justinlloyd.li&#x2F;blog&#x2F;thats-a-really-short-skirt&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;justinlloyd.li&#x2F;blog&#x2F;thats-a-really-short-skirt&#x2F;</a><p>I&#x27;ve read Rusty &amp; Edie&#x27;s write-up before, and my mind always returned to &quot;why?&quot; Not &quot;why&quot; did they do it but &quot;why such a terrible h&#x2F;w configuration?&quot; They obviously had enough money to pour in to this for the A&#x2F;C, the power bill, the hundred+ phone lines, computers, the storage, but rackmount equipment existed, small, reasonably affordable multi-user UNIX minicomputers existed, multi-line ISA cards existed, including multi-user BBS software for IBM PC. I am missing something about their setup and why it was that way that is blindingly obvious, but I cannot figure out what it is.
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thombleover 3 years ago
I spent part of my childhood in Boardman. Rusty N Edie&#x27;s BBS was a local number. I didn&#x27;t know how good I had it until we moved to another state. I recall that &quot;Fred Martin&#x27;s BBS&quot; was another fantastic local BBS in the Youngstown area.
mwcampbellover 3 years ago
I wonder what the equivalently large-scale home server installation would be today. Maybe piping a 10 gigabit (or higher) connection into one&#x27;s home, transferring out terabytes per month, and hosting hundreds of terabytes of files?
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