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Is Old Music Killing New Music?

22 pointsby aarghhover 3 years ago

9 comments

ricardobeatover 3 years ago
Maybe the takeaway is that most new music just sucks? It&#x27;s been the case for at least a decade. Multiple genres overrun by celebrities (vs talent) and endless re-hashing of the same ideas, samples and arrangements.<p>Every year there is only a handful of artists that stand out.<p>EDIT: A little experiment taking random past years:<p>- 1969: Elvis, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young, Fletwood Mac, Johnny Cash, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Cream, Mutantes, The Byrds, Frank Sinatra, Steppenwolf, The Velvet Underground, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, The Who, Elton John, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Nick Drake, The Doors, Miles Davis, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Janis Joplin, The Rolling Stones, The Allman Brothers Band, BB King, The Jackson 5<p>- 1989: Rush, Lou Reed, Skid Row, New Order, Elvis Costello, Madonna, Ramones, Sepultura, Pixies, Tom Petty, Aretha Franklin, Green Day, The Cure, Queen, Paul McCartney, Nirvana, Prince, Faith No More, Bee Gees, RHCP, The Rolling Stones, Soundgarden, Aerosmith, Bob Dylan, David Bowie, Billy Joel, KISS, Satriani, Clapton, plus dozens of others<p>- 2021: Billie Eilish, Taylor Swift, Dua Lipa, The Weeknd, BTS, Harry Styles, Lil Nas X, Olivia Rodrigo, Ed Sheeran, Doja Cat, Arlo Parks, Justin Bieber, Adele, Lorde, illuminati hotties, Silk Sonic<p>Taken from yearly compilation sites. Not only the 2021 list of highlights is shorter, but half of these artists are going to be forgotten in five years because their songs are just not memorable enough.
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ethagknightover 3 years ago
This article was posted sometime last week, apparently got picked up by the Atlantic. Interesting read, interesting prior discussion:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29999110" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29999110</a>
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hansthehorseover 3 years ago
Pro Tools and Auto Tune destroys new music. Is the verse repeated somewhere? Just fly the first verse over. Engineers and producers will quantize the song and just put things where they want them. Timings are microsecond perfect every time. It&#x27;s bare, lifeless and completely sterile. If a new artist wants to, even slightly, disrupt this paradigm they are going to have a hard time making the rent.
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carrideover 3 years ago
There are plenty of independent radio stations who curate diverse shows of both modern and older music. The best shows are the ones which lean towards mostly modern music with a few classic songs sprinkled in. They find the new artists who become the classic “old music” that everyone else discovers 5-10 years later. One great example is <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kexp.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kexp.org&#x2F;</a> from Seattle which has thrived for over 25 years with exactly this variety of music, with years of recorded in-studio music available for streaming.
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weare138over 3 years ago
&gt;<i>The 200 most popular new tracks now regularly account for less than 5 percent of total streams.</i><p>I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s an issue of old vs. new music but the decline of pop music. People are just tired of the same boring rehashed pop music being pushed by the major record labels. Streaming services are making new artists from independent labels accessible and allowing younger people to rediscover older music.
happycubeover 3 years ago
- In this pandemic-y world people retreat into what&#x27;s comfortable, and older music can be one of those comforts.<p>- In this streaming world it&#x27;s easier than ever to listen to &#x27;new&#x27; old music.<p>- There&#x27;s plenty of new styles of music that isn&#x27;t on the charts. Yet.<p>And I&#x27;m aging out of the demos those music company heads market to (and many of them beat me to it)
WheelsAtLargeover 3 years ago
I suspect that the recommendation engines have a lot to do with this. Old songs have a lot more likes that new one so they are recommended at a higher level. Additionally, more likes begets more likes that again increases the recommendations of already popular music. The whole system is built to favor old music.
Knufenover 3 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29999110" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=29999110</a><p>Repost
fuzzfactorover 3 years ago
&gt;Is Old Music Killing New Music?<p>No some of it is just developing that same smell all on its own.<p>Like all <i>popular</i> music like forever.