The part that Fox hit the nail on the head was asking them what they really wanted to do in life. They responded saying to teach Philosophy, now all jokes aside, what's stopping this person from going after that? This movement that this person supports isn't going to get them to where they want to be in life, or atleast have a go.<p>Like all things people have their own interpretation of what "anti-work" is.<p>For me it's centered around making sure that people aren't working crazy hours at the expense of enjoying the life we live. I'm thinking the Amazon workers who seem to be getting treated terribly. Or its people that work extremely long hours and get paid a very average wage. Or its people burnt out from having worked very hard in their careers. It's the burnout work culture.<p>Unfortunately in this case, the viewpoint that was taken by the media and certainly communicated by the mod was around simply doing the least amount of work possible. For some people this is okay, but I wouldn't be encouraging it to live a fulfilled life.<p>If this person had said, I work x number of hours a week dog walking so I can follow my passion of x, then that's completely fine.
The entire thing was a disaster, start to finish. If you're going on Fox News, at least clean your room, put on something other than a sweatshirt, and come PREPARED. You have to know that Fox is going to ask you horribly loaded questions that aim to make you seem like the biggest fool on earth.<p>But the funny part is, they didn't even do that. The questions asked pretty much amounted to "What are your aspirations?" and "What do you do for a living?" And when the answers to that are "I want to teach Philosophy" and "I sleep on the job that I work 20 hours a week while I punish dogs by refusing them water"[1] then maybe you shouldn't be speaking like what you are doing is too much work.<p>She could have mentioned the growing wealth inequality, the need for unions, the causes behind the "great resignation", the shifting attitudes of not taking bullshit, but instead she had to say how "Laziness is a virtue!" as if anybody ever is going to agree with that. I would say it's a strawman of the typical reddit moderator (who does it for free, by the way), but if a strawman is made of flesh and blood, is it really a strawman anymore?<p>Who were the mods at /r/antiwork kidding. I guess this is the egotistical delusion that happens when your head mod is a self admitted rapist.[2]<p>[1]<a href="https://i.imgur.com/XsHDFFN.jpg" rel="nofollow">https://i.imgur.com/XsHDFFN.jpg</a>
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Link to interview: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yUMIFYBMnc" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yUMIFYBMnc</a>
The personal attacks and especially acting like dog walking is some lowly profession is just disgusting. Anyone doing anything "ambitious" is only being held up by the support of many others making just as meaningful contributions. A dog walker provides a great service to a community that impacts many peoples lives by keeping their companions, which provide emotional support and boost their productivity, healthy and happy. IMHO this is exactly the toxic attitude causing the movement.
As usual with stories like this, everyone taking part comes across badly. Fox, the interviewer and the Reddit mod.<p>The anti-work movement is goodin the sense that it is waking people up to spending all their lives working for terrible bosses and companies. Should peoples lives be hard just so we can make other rich people richer? So they can live in giant houses, by the sea? So they can own multiple vehicles and fly first class everywhere? So they can play golf at fancy clubs when they want?<p>Why should a worker for a massive e-commerce company not be able to use the toilet? Just so the CEO can go to space as a hobby? FFS.
Why are reddit mods always like this? They power tripped so hard they'd rather destroy this forum than be embarrassed by it. What causes someone to get delusions of grandeur just because they are doing this unpaid job for reddit which should be limited to just delwting all the nastiness in the forum?
It's cringe and all but I'm more than anything surprised at how much people care about a throwaway 2 minute segment they filmed so viewers have something to laugh about during the commercials. Fox News really has mastered creating news segments that get people riled up
The biggest issue anti-work has, is it's name.<p>At it's core (the defensible part) anti-work is an American labour/union movement, reacting to the exploitation of workers due to flimsy labour law (think Amazon workers).<p>But the term anti-work is so emotive against the movement, that is just becomes indefensible. So much that the subreddit itself is no longer a single issue movement.
- For those outside of the loop, a couple time-ordered points not mentioned here:<p>Fox contacted to the mods and asked specifically to talk with this person, and the mods accepted this instead of other due to having some experience in other media. All of this without asking the users if they agree with that.<p>The Fox interview: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yUMIFYBMnc" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yUMIFYBMnc</a><p>After the Fox interview happened, practically the whole subreddit were upset and disappointed. People asked why this happened in this way, why they didn't prepare a lot more this kind of event, and practically they got an "it is what it is", with a bit of authoritarian smell because the mods took this personally.<p>People really get even more mad about this, created other subreddits, and created threads in r/antiwork saying things like "mods are mods, not leaders or content creators, and they shouldn't influence the whole sub" and like like "we need new mods".<p>Mods took that personally, banned a lot of people, removed a lot of comments, more people were mad about this, and even attacked personally the person who spoke in Fox, until they had to close the sub.<p>- Sources:<p><a href="https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/sdesxw/megathread_rantiwork_goes_private_after_fox_news/" rel="nofollow">https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/sdesxw/mega...</a><p><a href="https://old.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/comments/sdjc4b/the_newest_most_popular_reddit_sub_rantiwork/" rel="nofollow">https://old.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/comments/sdjc4b/the...</a><p>- What I think we should learn about this:<p>Fox wanted to interview a specific mod because they knew that using a person who probably would give a bad public image they can show a bad image of the sub. And not only Fox, but every media who have a opposite idea or ideology to yours.<p>Mods weren't clever enough to ask the people if they wanted or not to be in Fox, who should be the spokesperson, and what thing they wanted defend, report, or ask for. They also needed to make to the spokesperson a guide about what appearance (not only physical) give and what subjects needs to talk.<p>The spokesperson never should talk about their personal life. That person is representing a group of people, not only one.<p>You can stop individual people, but not a common idea.<p>This is gonna be used for ever to teach people what not to do in an interview for a lot of time.
Never talk to the media. That goes double for right-wing media. They aren't your friends, all they care about is pushing their narrative. They will steam-roll you and ruin your life for ratings / views.
She said she would like to teach critical thinking. How unbelievably rich. The host made the excellent point that in this market, the hardest you will work is determined by how hard people in general are willing to work. The market decides how hard you are expected to work, not your boss or the Illuminati. It’s the same something-for-nothing logic-vacuum that led to communism and the massive corruption that followed.
Movement? It's a reddit. My favorite reddit, and the only reason I go to Reddit anymore. That is the problem and that's why the fear level of the elites (about unionization) is elevated enough to start running hatchet jobs on a forum.
The working theory is the mods, including this one, were paid off to be a total disaster to try prevent the movement gaining further traction. Everyone in the subreddit voted no to a media appearance. That mod decided otherwise with a second interview with another mod not yet aired.